WY ARE MEN CALLED GENTLEMEN

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trisher
trisher Member Posts: 9,263
edited 1. Feb 2010, 11:46 in Community Chit-chat archive
This has always had me wondering.

Why are men know as Genltemen?.........why?

Trish
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  • barbara12
    barbara12 Member Posts: 21,281
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    Thats a good one Trish :)
    Love
    Barbara
  • annie_mial
    annie_mial Member Posts: 5,614
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    Gentle folk was in common use at one time..........

    Annie
  • moonseed
    moonseed Member Posts: 289
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    LOVELY Well Done Hun
    Steph
  • barbara12
    barbara12 Member Posts: 21,281
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    Wounder why we didn't have gentlewomen :lol:
    Love
    Barbara
  • jordan7j
    jordan7j Bots Posts: 346
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    Hi Trisher, according to dictionary, it means a man of noble birth.
    A man of honour and good behaviour
    A man who does not need to earn a wage
    A valet, or butler
    gentle - derives from the latin, gentilis, coming from "the same clan stock or race"
    Originally in 16th century, a gentleman was expected to serve in the military, if there were no wars, they entered into hunting or tournaments.
    Private violence was acceptable, and often used to defend their honour.
    Thats the jist of it anyway!!
  • mellman01
    mellman01 Member Posts: 5,306
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    I still wonder why they call woman the Gentler Sex, I mean I've been beaten up and been put in hospital on more than one ocassion by them, and let me tell you there's nothing gentle about having a stilleto stamped into yer ear trust me!. :shock:
  • trisher
    trisher Member Posts: 9,263
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    Annie

    Yes, but exactly why did men hang on to that title. The toilets.. Gentlemen and us Women why not Gentlewomen?

    Then you have Gentlemen's Tailors. You never see Gentlewomen's Tailors.
  • chris7
    chris7 Bots Posts: 2,696
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    Just looked this up in me Brewer's dictionary

    From the old French gentilz hom
    Historically, a man entitled to bear arms but not of the nobility.
    Someone of gentle birth, of position in society with manners, bearing and behaviour appropriate to such a position.
    The term later came to mean any cultured man, and any man in general as a polite form of reference.


    Sorry it's taken me a while to look this up so apologies if someone beat me to it.
    Chris
  • trisher
    trisher Member Posts: 9,263
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    jordan7j wrote:
    Hi Trisher, according to dictionary, it means a man of noble birth.
    A man of honour and good behaviour
    A man who does not need to earn a wage
    A valet, or butler
    gentle - derives from the latin, gentilis, coming from "the same clan stock or race"
    Originally in 16th century, a gentleman was expected to serve in the military, if there were no wars, they entered into hunting or tournaments.
    Private violence was acceptable, and often used to defend their honour.
    Thats the jist of it anyway!!

    Hi Jordan

    Yes, but aren't women capable of all that these days.?? We are well behaved, come from good stock, enter into the Military.Some even do hunting,others bring home the bacon :D as my mum used to say
  • trisher
    trisher Member Posts: 9,263
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    mellman01 wrote:
    I still wonder why they call woman the Gentler Sex, I mean I've been beaten up and been put in hospital on more than one ocassion by them, and let me tell you there's nothing gentle about having a stilleto stamped into yer ear trust me!. :shock:

    Mellman

    Did that really happen to you?

    Well, agaiin what about the men that beat up women, that's not being gentle either.
  • annie_mial
    annie_mial Member Posts: 5,614
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    Gentlewomen was used as a general term in the 19thC.

    I guess there was such a hiatus for women at that point that the label died out - after all, when a wealthy woman got married her fortune then belonged to her husband unless it was very carefully legally tied up.

    It's only comparatively recently that we have lifted ourselves up by the boot straps - but certainly during the 1930's there were Homes for Retired Gentlewomen etc, usually meaning teachers and governesses and the odd aristocrat down on their luck!

    Annie
  • trisher
    trisher Member Posts: 9,263
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    Annie

    Really, well I never. I should have looked it up, but thought peeps in here would know why.

    Trish x
  • mellman01
    mellman01 Member Posts: 5,306
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    Hi Trishar no not really but from what I see on CCTV U LIKE on satalite TV it is quite common now, I think the term was more applicable years ago more than today, men being the stronger sex were being taught a social code that they should never go about beating woman, today though it’s more like a past time for fit young idiots to beat up or pick on anyone they like these day’s.
    Mind you I I’ve known of at least two men who were abused by their wives/girl friends so although less common it does happen to men, mind you I don’t think I would stand for either gender abusing the other.
  • livinglegend
    livinglegend Member Posts: 1,425
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    chris7 wrote:
    Just looked this up in me Brewer's dictionary

    From the old French gentilz hom
    Historically, a man entitled to bear arms but not of the nobility.
    Someone of gentle birth, of position in society with manners, bearing and behaviour appropriate to such a position.

    That lets me out of being called a 'gentleman' then. Owing to my families motto: 'S rioghal mo dhream.

    Joseph 8)
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  • oneday
    oneday Member Posts: 1,434
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    Thought....why are women either Miss or Mrs (okay theres Ms) to identify their marital status but men are all Mr?
  • jaspercat
    jaspercat Member Posts: 1,238
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    Hi Trisher, this may be a bit contriversal but not all men are Gentlemen, sorry guys love Jaspercatxx
  • chile168
    chile168 Member Posts: 384
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    I agree with Mellman01, I don't like abuse by either gender.

    I too have met men who have been abused by women and they were an absolute wreck. I know that statistics are higher of men abusing women but the statistics could be wrong as I believe it's harder for men to admit that they are being abused.

    Eve x
  • jean123
    jean123 Member Posts: 642
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    livinglegend wrote:
    chris7 wrote:
    Just looked this up in me Brewer's dictionary

    From the old French gentilz hom
    Historically, a man entitled to bear arms but not of the nobility.
    Someone of gentle birth, of position in society with manners, bearing and behaviour appropriate to such a position.

    That lets me out of being called a 'gentleman' then. Owing to my families motto: 'S rioghal mo dhream.

    Joseph 8)

    Joseph, it seems we are distantly related then. "Stand Fast"

    Jean
  • annie_mial
    annie_mial Member Posts: 5,614
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    livinglegend wrote:
    chris7 wrote:
    Just looked this up in me Brewer's dictionary

    From the old French gentilz hom
    Historically, a man entitled to bear arms but not of the nobility.
    Someone of gentle birth, of position in society with manners, bearing and behaviour appropriate to such a position.

    That lets me out of being called a 'gentleman' then. Owing to my families motto: 'S rioghal mo dhream.

    Joseph 8)

    Please translate for the benefit of us plebs.........

    Annie
  • barbara12
    barbara12 Member Posts: 21,281
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    rehab44 wrote:
    Roughly translated from the original manadarin meaning, Man with hand in pocket feels cocky all day
    Oh and theres us talking about Gentlemen :roll:
    Love
    Barbara
  • annie_mial
    annie_mial Member Posts: 5,614
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    rehab44 wrote:
    There is no pleasing you wimmen this weekend, it must be the full to blame :roll:

    Just be thankful you can blamesomething :!:

    Annie
  • joanlawson
    joanlawson Member Posts: 8,681
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    rehab44 wrote:
    There is no pleasing you wimmen this weekend, it must be the full to blame :roll:

    The full what :?:

    Monty :?: :shock:
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  • livinglegend
    livinglegend Member Posts: 1,425
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    annie_mial wrote:
    livinglegend wrote:
    chris7 wrote:
    Historically, a man entitled to bear arms but not of the nobility.

    That lets me out of being called a 'gentleman' then. Owing to my families motto: 'S rioghal mo dhream.

    Joseph 8)

    Please translate for the benefit of us plebs.........
    Annie

    Motto: S'rioghal Mo Dhream - My Race is Royal

    Part of the nobility. Therefore not a gentleman.

    Joseph 8)
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  • annie_mial
    annie_mial Member Posts: 5,614
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    Cor blimey, I don't 'alf pick 'em! Last thing I want is a run-in with the Royals, I haven't got my curtseying feet on today!

    Annie
  • livinglegend
    livinglegend Member Posts: 1,425
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    Arise Lady annie, we are all equals here on this forum.

    Joseph 8)
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