for all those refused benefits, watch this!! 37K a year!!!!!

luckybug · 21. Oct 2010, 12:36

http://www.itv.com/granada/trapped-on-benefits73684/

frogmorton · 21. Oct 2010, 12:39

Wo!

Luckybug

amazing!!

Love

toni xx

luckybug · 21. Oct 2010, 13:11

frogmorton wrote:

Wo!

Luckybug

amazing!!

Love

toni xx

I think its appaulling, and gets a motability car!!! Wish I could get down on the floor like her bend my leg on the sofa like her, and be so active in the bedroom...lol Then genuine disabled people get refused!!! makes you wonder.

dippydoodah · 21. Oct 2010, 14:07

Obviously I don't know how this lady suffers as I don't know her and I don't want to fall into that catagory of assuming things about people when I've not lived their life, as an outsider looking in I might say 'she doesn't look ill'.... which, isn't that an ignorance we're always fighting against?

I admit, Id love to be able to get down on the floor like that but I think that when I watch my children play or when I see my mum play with her grandchildren. I do find it hard to stomach that some people with more mobility than myself can get Benefits easily when some find it so hard....

I guess Im kinda on the fence on this one :oops:

alarkra · 21. Oct 2010, 15:53

This angers me. I too am one who doesn't want to say 'but she doesn't look ill'... however, I myself (like many others here) could not sit on the floor like that... if you were to put a million pounds on a table and say if you can sit on the floor like that and get up unaided, the cash is yours... I'd have to let the cash go.

I of course don't understand what her condition means to her and how it makes her feel, however, I think it's appaulling how people can make such a lot of money out of benefits when they could do some little work (although it's money that's totally deserved for those who are too poorly to work). I am fortunate enough to be able to work part time in a job that's not too badly paid, however, even if I were getting benefits, I'd still WANT to work, for the sake of my sanity... I know that some of you are not lucky enough to have that option, so I do not take my current situation for granted.

Rant over and not aimed at anyone or with intent to offend.

Hope you are having a lovely evening everyone - At the moment I'm testing out an online home game version of a TV gameshow starting next week, it's quite fun being a guinea pig in this sense!

tjt6768 · 21. Oct 2010, 15:55

What did really annoy me is her saying "I'm not willing to work for less that what I get", as though she does have a choice...
Now if she's off by choice then she should be ashamed of herself using her disability that way... :roll:
I would be in agony on the floor like that or even picking a child up that way, I wish I could, I have wonderful nephews and nieces that I can't do that with....
Gotta say the sceptic in me is winning on this one...

Tony

alarkra · 21. Oct 2010, 16:19

tjt6768 wrote:

What did really annoy me is her saying "I'm not willing to work for less that what I get", as though she does have a choice...
Now if she's off by choice then she should be ashamed of herself using her disability that way... :roll:
I would be in agony on the floor like that or even picking a child up that way, I wish I could, I have wonderful nephews and nieces that I can't do that with....
Gotta say the sceptic in me is winning on this one...

Tony

Tony, I must say, your view sums up my one too... better put actually.

cthornley · 21. Oct 2010, 16:37

I know what she means but she still makes me shudder...'i'm not willing to work for less than i get'

I work blooming hard in a full time job for a lot less, with RA which makes me suffer and I can't enjoy the time i get with my son because i'm so worn from the disease and working. The only benefit I get ...child benefit (however not for long as my husband earns just over the threshold), morally I couldn't claim for anything more even if I could (i have no idea if i'm eligible) because we don't need it to survive. I have to pay over £700 a month for my son's nursery just so I can go to work, thats a huge chunk of my wages but its my choice, so that I can actually contribute to society,....her comments that she thinks that the system should have changed earlier are rubbish, perhaps if she really believed this then she shouldn't have claimed every single benefit that she could just because they are there....I know that some people really do need the benefits due to disability or real hardship but how many of them exploit the system to the max.

We aren't the wealthiest but I have always believed that benefits are there to help those who have no choice, not to make those who haven't got everything in life a bit more comfortable than they probably need to be. :x

sorry but i think sometimes people seem to forget personal responsibility and that has nothing to do whether she is ill or not

sorry personal rant over
Chrissie

c4thyg · 21. Oct 2010, 17:21

I hate to say it but I fall into this category. Again, to look at me who would know how much pain I cope with and how exhausted it feel. I don't get as much as she does but that is because I only have one child.

I've been trying hard to get back into work yet at every turn there are barriers and not just financial ones.

Yes, I'm disabled,
yes, I'm a lone parent,
yes, I do well out of benefits,
and yes, I would prefer to work.

tjt6768 · 21. Oct 2010, 17:40

My Wife also has the choice not to work , she has heart failure and has been extremely ill, but through the last three years has built herself back up to full time, there was never a question of 'can I be better off on benefits', we get nowhere near what this woman gets.. And I am sure that all of you like me that cannot work would give up this **** of a disease right now and work if possible.. I hate being on benefits, and what's worse is that because the Missus does work and is a couple of quid over some limit or other, we have to pay our rent, prescriptions, poll tax etc etc.... This woman should think herself lucky that she is not as ill as my Wife.. Now don't get me wrong, I don't claim to know anything about the disease she mentioned and obviously from experience I know any joint probmlems are horibble, but I don't consider myself nearly as poorly as the Wife and I am sure from what I saw that I am in a lot worse of a state than she is...
Sorry, got started ranting and went on and on lol

Tony

cthornley · 22. Oct 2010, 04:11

After calming down a bit overnight I think I realised what I really really hate about this woman.....
Its the appearence on television.....
stories like this do nothing good for those who are really deserving of the system and actually struggle to survive with what they are given, it paints a picture of overprovision whereas for most this is not the case.
It is stuff like this that makes the majority of the population have a knee jerk reaction and conclude that most people who claim must be cheating the system, and with them the government seems to have concluded the same. As usual it is the minority spoiling it for the majority.
Chrissie

c4thyg · 22. Oct 2010, 04:28

Chrissie, you are so right. The other thing it advertises to me is that it pays to keep having children that you can't afford to have. I have no idea of her circumstances of ending up being a lone parent but it says that she has been living on benefits for 10 years and her youngest certainly isn't 10 years old!! I know a lot of people might think I'm a hypocrite also being a single parent but I have one child and her father left me after 14 years because he hated me for being ill. Like I said, I don't know how she ended up in that situation but from the clip it doesn't exactly advertise responsibility. It was definitely poorly done. (Or well done depending on the response wanted by the author.)

tkachev · 22. Oct 2010, 05:43

I would think the £40000 includes housing benefit and maybe a figure to represent her mobility car(I assume she has the car because she said she doesn't need to pay for tyres etc). I wouldn't like to see a young family homeless so housings needs do have to be addressed but it is the people having babes in order to qualify for bigger houses and more benefits that upset me.And the men who make the women leave their home and the family has to be re-housed again while the man keeps the former council home. There a lot who do that!

Having said that I know that poverty and unemployment have been linked and were a big problem for years. The welfare state addressed that but then got out of hand. I don't want to see hungry, cold children as part of our social fabric like in the past but there has to be a balance....

But yes she did seem quite comfortable on that sofa.

Elizabeth

angel1 · 22. Oct 2010, 05:43

What I found hard to accept with this woman, is the underlying arrogance. To actually state, on television, that she is not prepared to work for less than she receives on benefits, takes a certain type of person. To then, in the next breath, claim that she has been "trapped" by the system, beggars belief. She sounds an intelligent woman, and must surely have realised what an enormous backlash this would create. She has not considered her children in going public, with what came across to me as almost a boast, despite her protestations to the contrary. I`m afraid I question her motives in all of this.

I hope she doesn`t live to regret her actions.......Ange.x.

tkachev · 22. Oct 2010, 05:49

I think a lot of people are going to suffer a backlash from this sadly.

E X

alarkra · 22. Oct 2010, 05:54

ARGH!The more I think about it, the more comments of yours I read, the more irritated I get with that woman. I can't comment anymore on this, I'm way to cross! :!:

salamander · 22. Oct 2010, 09:54

I'm not even going to look at the link as I can guess the contents already.

Some things you can't see or understand.

frogmorton · 22. Oct 2010, 10:27

I agree there Elizabeth - the consequences for 'genuine' people will be immeasurable

sharmaine · 22. Oct 2010, 12:43

Hi

Well, wonders never cease! She's got babies but where's the man in her life? Yep, she was down of the floor and looked in good health. I too wish I could get down on the floor - I might get down there but would be down there until someone got me up!

To have children just to get the benefits is terrible but I understand that's what some folks do. I worked from the age of 16 until I was 52 would've liked to worked longer but OA has put a stop to that!

It seems that a lot of people live a life of luxury on the benefit system. I wonder how many of them have ever worked???

Sharmaine

luckybug · 22. Oct 2010, 19:58

She also stated she has kid carers at weekends? so if she has kid carers why isn't she able to work, I couldnt sit like that with my leg under my backside holding a baby, then rolling on the floor with them, I reckon its through people like her ESA has been brought in, but she will not get called I presume as she is a single mum (supposedly) yet has two children under 2 years old, so she must go out socialising.... wonder how her ankles cope then, she won't even have to consider going to work til the children are at least 7 years old, probably have another 5 by then.

jenzie06 · 23. Oct 2010, 15:21

Oh dear...not another one of these stories. I'm not sure they do anyone any good. It makes folks like us cross and fuels the fire for the people who look at people like me and make comments.

I wish I were able to crawl about the floor with my son and being able to handle him without a problem (I'm now awaiting surgery to repair damaged hands from trying to pick him up). He's just learnt to sit up and was falling over and I tried to grab him and my hands gave out. Cue crying mother and child (who had banged his head).

And don't get me started on the benefits system...

lavenderlady · 23. Oct 2010, 19:33

these people who keep on having kids as its ok being on benefits more kids equals more benefits, but as already said a lot of real ill people are going to have problems with their claim becasue of people like this . I too cannot sit down on the floor like her or pick any of my grandkids up etc, yes I had 5 kids who I stayed at home with fully intending to go to work once my youngest was old enough shes now 15 and I've had to accept I will never be well enough to work my head says "yes please" but my bodys saying "no way accept it " I cannot even drive myself walk far or stand or sit for long and I am in constant pain, seeing this lady with her kids playing on the floor I can only wish for but accept its not going to happen, all I can see that for the rest of my life i will be having operations and being on strong medication nothing to look forward to

tkachev · 24. Oct 2010, 05:16

I read more. She has frequent joint dislocations which cant be nice. But she contradicts herself by saying she can't work but also she won't work for less than the benefits.
The coalition government view feedback from all these comments and she is doing us all a diservice as if it is just being given to her and she is surprised. Many people fight long and hard for care and support and is not just handed over easily as she suggests.

Elizabeth

for all those refused benefits, watch this!! 37K a year!!!!!

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