Recent welfare cuts

ghostbuster
ghostbuster Member Posts: 6
edited 27. Mar 2025, 07:11 in Work and financial support

Hi,

Despite reading the green paper a couple of times I’m uncertain of how my situation will be gauged. I receive PIP at the standard rate for both parts. The highest daily living points for one element is 3 and my award runs until November 2027. I also receive LCWRA. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis, Osteoarthritis, Osteoporosis, hyper mobility and am waiting for an Osteo appointment as I need both hips and a knee replacement. My worry is that if I get a LCWRA assessment before the end of my PIP award and they see I have 3 points will they cut/lose my LCWRA and PIP? I worked full time and have paid tax and NI for 43 years and at 63 am finding this really difficult. We all have individual stories and needs, has anyone worked this scenario out? I have written to my MP asking the same but would appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.

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  • Trish9556
    Trish9556 Member Posts: 818

    Hi @ghostbuster

    Im sorry you're going through this additional and unnecessary stress. I have never claimed PIP but my recommendation to you would be to ask your local citizens advice bureau as they're are knowledgeable and helpful with benefit claims.

    I don't suppose you'll receive a meaningful reply from your mp, my own labour mp just replies with generic mail merge responses or stuff copied and pasted from their information bank.

    Best wishes

    Trish

  • iwannerbeme
    iwannerbeme Member Posts: 31

    Hi Ghostbuster,

    I dont know much about LCWRA but I am pretty sure other benefits are not linked with PIP that would include LCWRA To claim PIP after 2026 you will need to score 4 points in one activity. You will still need to make up the rest of the points as normal I think its disgraceful what they are doing. I have signed the Scope petition and also written to complain to my MP. I doubt I will recieve a response. I am 63 also, I have been defrauded on my state pension. I think I will be 67 years old now before I can claim it and now this !

  • iwannerbeme
    iwannerbeme Member Posts: 31

    This is what scope say "

    The ‘Costs of Cuts’ letter, organised by disability charity Scope, highlights the devastating impact that proposed changes to Personal Independence Payments (PIP) and the Limited Capability for Work payment would have on millions of disabled people across the UK.

    At a time when disabled people are already facing higher costs and significant barriers, these cuts risk pushing many further into hardship.

    As an organisation dedicated to supporting people to live full, independent, and dignified lives, we stand alongside our partners in urging the Government to reconsider these proposals. The voices of people with disabilities must be heard. "

    They too are suggesting that LCWA will be affected. I am not sure in what way.

    I would speak to the CAB as Trish suggests to clear it up, if you google Scope open letter PIP you will find it and be able to sign the petition, there is also a written letter to your MP already for you, you just click send.

  • Thank you for your comments, it’s such a worry for so many. I will definitely sign the petition, I don’t think people realise how difficult and stressful it is to get PIP and LCWRA as it is now without changing the criteria. I too was supposed to retire at 60 and have paid enough tax and NI to retire now on a full state pension. I used my savings for a few years without claiming in hope that I would improve enough to return to the workplace but it wasn’t to be. Let’s hope that the changes don’t get approved as most of them have to go through Parliament.


    thanks again for your suggestions and good luck to anyone in this situation.

  • Arthuritis
    Arthuritis Member Posts: 515

    @Trish9556 Hmmm who was it in the old group that had a mylar whacking stick to apply wisdom to 1)Politicians rears 2) Industry CEOs 3) Regulatory & health foundations that received money from big food & pharma in exchange for ensuring the profits from pain & suffering kept flowing, that lobbied for and profited from creating and then “treating” but not curing these chronic conditions?

    Tobacco industry should pick up all costs for tobacco related illness

    Alcohol the same

    Sugar - as per alcohol + CVD

    Big Food -fructose, unfermented soy & oxidisable fats tax

    Big Pharma - should pay for all chronic diseases - thin the margins on drugs needed continually but drugs that cure to be free of any tax!

    Oh and for any discovered to be doing dodgy things like Volkswagen’s fake the emissions or Fred the Shred ruining lives… mandatory prison sentences with hard labour. In El Salvador’s CECOT! 😅

    😉

    Considering how many lives are cruelly & painfully damaged… I think this is pretty lenient?

  • I agree that so many live on the fruits of those suffering from chronic diseases. I’m on biological drugs after trying every other option and I take one tablet a day, the cost for 30 tablets is £980 which is ludicrous. I expect the cost price is under £30! I’ve only been using them for 4 months but had to get cleared by a panel due to the cost. Companies are so greedy and don’t want to research a cure as long as the money keeps coming in.

  • Trish9556
    Trish9556 Member Posts: 818

    Oh @Arthuritis, I think that went to the bin one sleep deprived night before my THR! I shall have to find another one :)

    Can I add HS2 to your list please - so much parc (read backwards lol) in the air around here caused by that white elephant I struggle to breathe most days.

    Getting back to the subject of useless GP's, I think we should be able to put in in claims for unanswered phone calls, inability to book appointments and GP's who waste time and money on rubbish but don't spend it on us.

    Hope youre doing ok

    Trish xx

  • Arthuritis
    Arthuritis Member Posts: 515

    @Trish9556 HS2… that huge misuse of taxpayer funds passed off as a benefit, forgetting it’s only their cronies the suppliers who lobbied for it who would reap the benefits. Just like post office Horizon or NPfIT. Or the small group of oligarchs who lobby and donate to political parties to get their way, and pretty much own all the mainstream media and use their money to hire clever companies to use social media to influence voters to vote for their cause, such as protecting their untaxed dodgy wealth from new EU tax laws for member countries. Of course no ordinary person would vote to protect their wealth, so they dress up it’s true nature as “sovrinty innit”, amplify existing grievances to get people to vote without thinking to their own detriment. They own all the media so control the voting population that watch the media😏.

    Ok rant mode off! If you want more… search for a post I made about Dr Lykoudis, who was fined and forced to retire because he dared to relieve 30,000 people of ghastly chronic pain from a then considered “incurable” disease. He dared to interrupt the gravy train.

    @Trish9556 Hope you can find a replacement mylar stick!

  • Arthuritis
    Arthuritis Member Posts: 515

    @ghostbuster @Trish9556

    Just to be extra clear, Dr John Lykoudis cured 30,000 of “incurable” gastric ulcers in the 1940’s, and was fined for his trouble and rather than falsely admit he was wrong and big pharma selling expensive flavoured carbonate tabs were right, he took early retirement. Big pharma were able to influence his govt by claiming corporation tax would be much reduced and phama funded jollies would be cut if they could not keep selling their very profitable tabs. The cash strapped feeble govt with its morally weak officers gave in, and Lykoudis was out. Of course decades later Aussie Dr Marshall re-discovered Lykoudis’ buried wisdom and eventually won the Nobel prize for his discovery, even if it was a rediscovery, because he refused to be silenced despite Big Pharma’s efforts.

  • Lizebeth
    Lizebeth Member Posts: 13

    PIP is one of the strangest welfare benefits I've ever had to claim.

    I am Deaf and my level of Deafness is shown on my audiology tests to be on the cusp of Sever to profound in terms of classification for a potential cochlear implant, though I don't want one.

    My hearing Aids are just one step away from the strongest the NHS can provide, so I am very Deaf essentially.

    My PIP assessment gave me something like 2 points for this and zero points for mobility yet one of my biggest Deaf related issues is how it affects my mobility.

    I can't hear announcements because of all the background noises at public transport stations, can't hear if someone is behind me yelling at me to get out of the way, can't hear employees telling me the next train is cancelled, and I can't hear to make phone calls (for help or guidance) for journeys I'm not familiar with I need someone with me.

    I got more points for needing to walk with a walking stick than I did for being Deaf.

    If the Government cut my PIP award then fine its money thats actually going straight out of the local economy as thats where I spend it, the Taxi drivers will most likely be the ones who see less, and the NHS will have to start paying to send me home as I do qualify for patient transport services but they don't run in my area after 6pm so the NHS will have to fork out for an individual Taxi as they cannot legally just put me on the train or bus.

    I'll have less to spend on food so likely will have to give up the Glutten free diet that currently helps me stay medication free for my diverticulitis, sure go for it as the NHS again will now have to start paying for pain meds instead and maybe surgery.

    Cutting PIP, cutting welfare payments in general, is a false economy because the payment levels never were enough to fund a lifestyle of financial investment opportunities and luxury goods.

    As plenty of people found here in the uk in the 1980tys when mass unemployment hit home hard, its not a life of indolence and easy money, its always been a pittance paid out under draconian conditions and can be taken away in a heartbeat at the whim of who ever signed you on.

    In my life time I've only ever known one person who deliberately attempted to fiddle the system, they were caught with in 18 months after a full DWP fraud team investigation and they got a 2 year prison sentence.

    They owned and ran a pub, had a new build house and owned a rather fancy car, they falsely claimed income support as a single parent and claimed they paid rent to what transpired was their partner, so they never ever qualified for benefits or needed them, it was pure greed that motivated them.

    I am so sorry that the media have taken and promoted the false idea that the benefits system is routinely defrauded by claimants, it simply isn't true.

    The population is increasing and we've been through and are still going through a global pandemic of the SARS virus which is having devastating effects on peoples health physical and mental, which explains why claims are rising along with the cost of living crisis and stagnant wages.

    At the end of the day I am now too old and ill to care if they cut my PIP or decide I must work shifts in a coffee shop for a pittance, I'll do it and the results will be hilariously predictable to me and no doubt horribly frustrating for those who try to get me to understand they want their order done in under 5 mins…lol (thats so not going to happen)

  • iwannerbeme
    iwannerbeme Member Posts: 31

    I couldnt agree with you more Lizebeth! Especially on the economy. We are the people who spend, on all sorts of things, from special shoes to house adjustments, and everything in between. The very wealthy (the 1 per cent,not normal tax payers who are being squeezed so hard they cant afford to spend either ) do not, they put thier millions into special accounts and sit on it basically. So these cuts to disabled people and higher tax to ordinary workers are not helping to grow the economy, thats a lie! . It is also not true that younger people are paying for my pension, which i wont get until I am 67 years old now, apparently its not fair to ask the younger generation to pay for it but Ive already paid for it over the last 45 years or so. They have spent it and are now making excuses as to why I cant have it. Thats the real fraud!

  • Hi Lizebeth,

    This is my point we are all different with individual needs. My mobility is really poor and the pain associated with Rheumatoid Arthritis, Osteoarthritis and Osteoporosis is like being tortured. I have a shudder in both hands which are twisted. After working full time on computers for 43 years my hands are useless. Despite this at 63 it’s likely I will be forced to look for work along with about 1million others all knowing that no employer is likely to even consider interviewing or employing us let alone make reasonable adjustments to accommodate us. And now with 10,000 NHS England and 5-10,000 Civil Service redundancies (the cost of redundancies will be enormous) and their motto is to get people back to work? I already felt useless, it’s taken me an hour to type this paragraph and the distress 1.2m people are going through is on MP’s who spend £2000 on expenses for a pair of shoes and have just accepted a pay rise earning £92k.

  • iwannerbeme
    iwannerbeme Member Posts: 31

    They are rewarding themselves for total failure. Public services are crumbling, the NHS is broken. Pensioners have been dying in the cold after energy prices went through the roof, I could go on and on actually . They should only get rewarded when the country prospers. who else gets a raise for being rubbish at thier job and ripping their employer off