Rheumatoid arthritis

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helen1937
helen1937 Member Posts: 3
edited 1. Jul 2025, 06:24 in Living with arthritis

Hi. New to this forum. And so glad I found you all. Having a real battle to get an urgent referral on the NHS. Ive ended up paying private just to actually get some answers as to what’s wrong with me. Was told by my GP I had slight swelling to a few joints but no heat or redness. Had 2 lots of RF factor and Anti CCP bloods done. Waited 6 weeks on total for results!! Both came back positive. Went on to be referred but unbeknown to me it was routine. So the appointment I got is for December this year. The pain in both my hands and feet is agony and trying to live a normal life is so hard.
I’ve since had a private appointment within a week I must ad. And I’ve been diagnosed with RA and Psoriasis. I’ve been prescribed 5 weeks of steroids to try and calm the inflammation. It is working but side effects aren’t great.
I’ve now since had my NHS referral expedited and so I’m hoping I get seen very soon. The cost for going private for RM would cost me a small fortune because of all the follow up appointments etc.So the private doctor has got me back in to the NHS.
Could I ask anyone who has this condition how long it took from seeing Rheumatologist first time to being prescribed DMARDS took? And also how you are on them as I’m so scared of how I’m going to feel. Thank you.

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  • Eeyore
    Eeyore Member Posts: 55

    Hello @helen1937

    For me, I had an urgent referral to the hospital in November 2023 and the appointment was in February 2024. That was "urgent"! NICE guidelines say we should be seen within 3 days of referral but the NHS is in a bit of a state, isn't it? My local hospital is severely understaffed, which doesn't help. Hope you don't have to wait long for your appointment, thank goodness you got it expedited. To wait in agony 'til December is too terrible to contemplate.

    It was about 3 weeks from seeing the consultant that I got my first dose of Methotrexate, the go-to DMARD. I was fortunate in that I had (have!) no side effects other than feeling a bit below par the following day. There are alternatives to methotrexate so if you are unfortunate enough to get bad side effects they can try you on something else. Don't suffer in silence, speak to the rheumatology nurses! They are your friends. But you will most likely be absolutely fine. Be aware, though, that it takes up to 3 months to take full effect and you will probably be given steroids as well as the DMARD for a while until it takes effect.

    Glad you found us, people on here are all very supportive and helpful.

  • helen1937
    helen1937 Member Posts: 3

    Aww thank you so much for the reply. I don’t feel so alone anymore. And I certainly don’t feel so anxious about the treatment as I did.

  • Rob_O
    Rob_O Member Posts: 6

    Hi Helen.

    I'm new to the condition as well - only been 4 weeks since I was officially diagnosed. For me it was fairly quick. Gap between the GP referring me and getting to see a consultant was a few weeks. I was though given a DMARD - methotrexate - on the day I saw the consultant (plus other drugs for various purposes) so fingers crossed it'll be as quick for you.

    Re side effects, I've had nothing so far.

    I also have to add that the NHS really came through well during that initial phase with lots of information and appointments with other health practitioners - physio, podiatrist already happened, and hand specialist is lined up for next week.

    All the very best and hope it goes excellently for you.

  • Arciere
    Arciere Member Posts: 126

    hi there

    we have a similar story in that I was diagnosed privately and then given a private prescription which comprised the DMARDs and Oral Steroids. The challenge was getting this as an NHS prescription. As you are finding, you can see a private consultant within a matter of days, but the delay to see an NHS consultant - even if the same person - can be months.

    Your GP can prescribe the steroids. Mine was reluctant to, so I used my local Rheumatologist Advice Line and a Specialist Nurse wrote to my GP requesting the support, which resulted in the prescription I needed.

    The DMARDs were more difficult. I had a private prescription in my hand, which boots wanted something obscene to produce (£hundreds of pounds) and the GP wouldn’t help me with. There is something called a shared care procedure (might be called something else) but I struggled to find someone that would give me the time to make the transfer from the private prescription to the NHS. The other challenge, is that for me, and others here with the same condition, I’m afraid to say that DMARDs do not always work. In my case they simply made me feel unwell, physically and emotionally. What has worked very well, almost to the point of remission is Biologic medication which I understand is very expensive, and so whatever happens, you’ll need the NHS diagnosis and prescription which, they say, is a lifetime prescription for whatever works for you.

    if it helps in the meantime, things that worked for me include;

    • oral steroids
    • reducing stress / emotional pressure
    • hydration
    • gut health (I removed gluten, artificial sweeteners, sugars or “ose” (glucose, lactose etc) and deadly nightshade veg from my diet, and I’m currently trialing no meat). Increased fibre through more veg and fermented foods, sauerkraut, kefir, kimchi etc Check out the collection of rheumatoid cookbooks
    • taking things out of my diet, rather than chasing supplements
    • for my feet I did purchase a foot spa, sort of a gimmick but helped.
    • I also found naproxen quite good, which needs a prescription
    • Time off work - luckily I was well supported with this to just rest
    • Using the rheumatology advice line
    • Learning about the microbiome - start with a Netflix documentary called “hack your health”

    The good news, is that there is a solution that will help you and make you feel better, it’s just that the road to that can be long, There’s a fantastic poem by Stephen Fry that basically says your pain is very real, but is just a season, and that season will change for the better.

    Keep posting here, even if to rant, sometimes it helps just to put it in writing and there is a whole bunch of people who’ve been through, or who are going through the same as you. You are not alone.

    Hope this helps

  • Arthuritis
    Arthuritis Member Posts: 573

    @helen1937 There’s great advice to be had here.
    I had a similar experience, misdiagnosed by NHS GP and even 2 NHS hospital consultants in person. They were insistent I had an endocrine or digestive problem.

    Then had a private GP appt during lockdown and she correctly diagnosed me with confidence and referred me to a private consultant, who saw me within 2 weeks of referral and prescribed steroids & MTX. The steroids give almost immediate relief, MTX takes 3 months. Steroids however cause other problems so not a long term solution. MTX or euphemistically called DMARDS, dampens your immune system so it stops attacking your joints. Unfortunately it means you are vulnerable to other infections.

    A gem piece of advice above is removing stuff from your diet and then re-introducing one by one to see what things you have become intolerant to.

    Many people have found (including myself) a weeklong water fast both a pain reliever and an opportunity to tailor your diet to remove things you are no longer tolerant to.

    Getting a handle on your gut biome helps, I am reviewing Dr William Davis’ youtube videos and he has a book out as well.

    The food you are now intolerant to might surprise you. It’s not a matter of meat or veg, but what exactly specific to you. For me nightshades, beans, gluten, dairy soya and any animal products fed on soya (ie all farmed animals except ruminants) are off limits.

    I think I posted here about this and what I found some time ago. I achieved drug free remission in March 2023 but lost it in Jan 2025 (accidentally ate soya). Currently trying to regain it.

  • iwannerbeme
    iwannerbeme Member Posts: 52

    The senior GP at my sugery misdiagnosed what i now know to be obvious symptoms of RA. I went back to see her and she still missed it. My next appointment was with Physician Associate who just told me to stop wasting time basicially. I left it a month and went back, trainee Dr got it in one, sensibly took blood tests, no one else had bothered. Results in, and an urgent referral to rheumatology followed, that took another month all in all it took around 7 months from first symptoms to seeing my consultant. Lovey guy, competent, empathic and keen to give a lot of info and directions to support. I started MTX last Setember and am in clinical and biochemical remission, the look of increduality and anger on my consulants face after I told him about my surgery was very validating. The NHS is very hit and miss, my RA department is fab and yet others I know have had horrendous problems with other departments in the same hospital. I am taking MTX still as consultant wants to make sure I am stable but at the next review in a few months, I will be coming off it either slowly or straight away