2010 General Election

rondetto

I wont get into arguments relating to politics or religion, but........
there is a good argument why you should keep faith in the Labour party.
Firstly, you may be aware of the "Green Paper" which Gordon Brown suggested then shyed away from saying it just wouldn't work.
David Cameron is on record as saying he would implement it immediately.
Anyone who receives DLA or Incapacity benefit should be aware that
their benefits could be taken away and put into the hands of local government departments to hand out as they see fit.
In order to protect our benefits we need to keep the Labour party in office.
Personally, while Blair was in cahoots with Bush, while Mandelson milked the coffers, while Alistair Campbell stage managed affairs, while Prescott milked the system and had affairs.....I was spouting to get them out, and I feel guilty for that now.
Why?..........because a change to the Tories would jeapardise the economic recovery, and moreso lose what strived for and deserve,
I cannot afford to lose any benefit, so we have to vote wisely.
I'm not politically involved, so don't have a vested interest in any party. I just do not want to put my future in Camerons hands to take away my benefits so he can crow about how much he has saved in pounds and pence.

joyful164

I think there should be a bann on talking religion and politics on AC.
I don't believe any of the parties. Each one makes so many mistakes and non of them can wave the magic wand to get us out of the mess we are in. It is going to be one monumental crusade.
We are going to be driven mad by the news every day, worse than the world cup. I think I shall go and bury my head in my studio and come out again when it is all over. Think of all the masterpieces I shall get done.

What a waste of a tv licence. Repeats, polls and football.

Joy

only49

joyful164 wrote:

I think there should be a bann on talking religion and politics on AC.
I don't believe any of the parties. Each one makes so many mistakes and non of them can wave the magic wand to get us out of the mess we are in. It is going to be one monumental crusade.
We are going to be driven mad by the news every day, worse than the world cup. I think I shall go and bury my head in my studio and come out again when it is all over. Think of all the masterpieces I shall get done.

What a waste of a tv licence. Repeats, polls and football.

Joy

i agree football is stupid why do football fans sit out in the cold for 90 minutes and watch men running round kicking a ball around and as for politicians they only talk a load of rubbish, half of them don't know how to keep promises

sanmar63

rehab44 wrote:

You must be joking :shock: :shock: :shock:

I want to vote, but I really dont know who to vote for. :?

As far as I can tell, they're all liars and thieves and the only people they've any interest in helping is themselves - to our money! :roll:

All the parties are as bad as each other - they have absolutely no idea how ordinary, hard working people live, and whats more, they don't care either!

Sandra x

mellman01

I just keep getting the lyrics of the Who song we won't get fooled again running through my head.

sanmar63

rehab44 wrote:

Then you must vote for the lesser of the evils, of course you can elect not to vote and therefore give up your right to moan about who ever becomes the next PM

Dont assume that I wont vote, I fully intend to - I just want to know who I can and cant trust.
Sandra x

valval

sanmar63 wrote:

rehab44 wrote:

Then you must vote for the lesser of the evils, of course you can elect not to vote and therefore give up your right to moan about who ever becomes the next PM

Dont assume that I wont vote, I fully intend to - I just want to know who I can and cant trust.
Sandra x

none of them but you have to vote for one lot lol

wallysatt

rehab44 wrote:

Then you must vote for the lesser of the evils, of course you can elect not to vote and therefore give up your right to moan about who ever becomes the next PM

Good one mate. These kind of people drive me mad.

frogmorton

webmanager wrote:

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They all need to take arthur more seriously

Webmanager

thank you

Toni x

dorcas

webmanager wrote:

See our page on how to get involved

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They all need to take arthur more seriously

Webmanager

Thanks webmanager,

Very useful way to become more effective and as arthritis sufferers to have our individual and collective voices heard.
Good also to raise awareness of arthritis issues and make the local & hopefully national parties accountable.

Iris x

rondetto

Just use your vote rather than not, and please use it wisely, that's all I ask.

joyful164

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They all need to take arthur more seriously

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This has certainly set my imagination going, but in the end, would they listen? I think I only have enough time to get one letter going but will give it a go. I, like many of us, am angry about the broken promises, waste of money, banks in particular. I honestly cannot see improvements in my lifetime.
Whatever mess the Labour made of things, Conservatives will only make a mess of the rest. If they get in, they have got to make the cuts in benefits and Local Spending to get the country back on it's feet.
Anyway, I am not an expert on these matters and going over to football, too much money is spent on the players. I must admit, I can get into some games, the occasional one I don't mind but it's when it is 3 times a week and on Sundays.
There I have had my say now. Now for a letter to Philip Hollobone. At least he has the gall to speak out what any one of us thinks.
Joy

livinglegend

rehab44 wrote:

As I understand it Parliament was dissolved today.
Parliament will be formally dissolved on the 12th of April, so therefore there will be no MPs, only Ministers will keep their jobs during the election. So is there any point in writing to anyone?

Brown asked the Queen to dissolve Parliament, which she will do formally on the 12th. He has no powers to dissolve Parliament himself and it should sit until then.

Many MPs will be busy arranging to be paid the £1Million each for standing down at this election.

Joseph 8)

livinglegend

rondetto wrote:

Firstly, you may be aware of the "Green Paper" which Gordon Brown suggested then shyed away from saying it just wouldn't work.

He bought it in in the first place!

Your saying that we should re-elect Gordon Brown who spent £Millions of our money on a 'green paper' which penalises disabled people, that he now rejects in an attempt to get votes? Not exactly a positive comment.

Was this the same Gordon Brown, who when Chancellor, sold off half of our gold reserves at the bottom of the market, in exchange for a foreign currency, which we now have to prop up to the tune of £398Billion per year? Most of which we now have to borrow back at exorbitant interest rates or the country is broke.

Vote for who you please, but use your vote wisely. I wish that they would put 'None of the Above' on the voting slips, then we could really save some money.

Joseph 8)

sanmar63

delboy wrote:

Vote labour in as they will take forever to sort the mess out, vote the Conservatives in and there will be swingeing cuts that will hit very hard.

I may vote labour as when they make an even worse mess of it they won't get in for another 20 years.

I'm wondering if the Lib's should have a go.....after all, they couldn't make more of a mess of it than the others......could they??? :?

mellman01

What gets me is whenever we invade a country to show their evil despotic leader the path to democracy truth and enlightenment just after we have had the nasty bugger convicted in a kangaroo court then promptly strung up by our own democracy loving but well armed lynch mob we then go about imposing proportional representation on the blown up bombed and traumatised population, yet we here can’t get a sniff at it, all we get is red or blue, both are in it for themselves and are only interested in handing out lucrative contracts to their big business buddies, cynical but true, sadly I don’t trust any of them, they all kept their mouths shut when it came to the claims scandal in fact the ex speaker tried to burry any chance of us the tax payer ever knowing about it, I never thought I would say this but thank god for journalism.
And don’t go on about Labour sticking their greedy hands in the till the claims system was ironically designed and implemented by one Mrs T, when it was announced that it was now in operation by the then speaker of the house they told all the MP’s to go and fill their pockets. All that will happen is that we will all forget and slowly they will find new ways to stuff our cash into their accounts only this time we won’t ever be allowed to know what they are getting up to. Nope I wouldn’t walk across the street to P on any of them if they were on fire, who was it that said the only man to enter parliament with honourable intent was Oliver Cromwell, Jesus poor old Guy fawkes got stretched burnt stabbed and generally given a bit of a roughing over before his intestine were cut out of him and burnt on a fire while he was alive( so I’m told he didn’t last much longer after that, well there’s a thing!!) and we all celebrate his dearth on the 5th of November, my God in my book he should have got a flippin medal for at least trying!.

mellman01

rehab44 wrote:

Good read and post Mell nut it would seem that we have no choice, maybe if no bugger voted?

Sounds like a plan rehab, but what's the betting they would just set the dogs on us to force us to anyway, violence never works but if you don't do as I say I'll spray MACE in ya face and then club you!.
Ye gods if a bunch of terrorists stuck a 747 right through the lords and the commons I for one would feel really sorry for the loss of such lovely buildings but not for the parasits sitting inside feeding off you and I, in fact I would think about flippin time, they always happy to put us in the front line be it abroad or even here just trying to travel to work on public transport while they smuggly sit in an armour plated Merc with armed body guards

Sorry went off on one again there!. :oops:

joanlawson

"He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future."

Sounds like Dr. Who should be in charge then. He could run the country from the tardis. It would be a lot cheaper :P

mellman01

Oh me god we are rebelling next thing will be a few loud bangs and a lot of shouting just before the cuffs go on!.

carol101

I am 34 and have never in my life voted. I feel guilty in some respect because of the fight women put up to get the right to vote but are any of the parties worth voting for??? I haven't seen one yet!

trisher

How about we have these in power

Joseph
Rehab
Mellman
Delboy
A D Lord
Joan

You can fight amongst yourself's who will be what

joanlawson

trisher wrote:

How about we have these in power

Joseph
Rehab
Mellman
Delboy
A D Lord
Joan

You can fight amongst yourself's who will be what

I feel like the token woman in this :!: Crikey, I'd have my work cut out keeping this lot in order :shock:

mellman01

It’s not about who will win for me, it’s about the system and those within it, it’s not good enough just to say “well it was signed off by the fees office” when your screwing the hell out of the claims department, how in hell can you purchase a house do it up with tax payers money then sell it at a nice little profit and then not even pay any tax on the deal and then go and do it all over again!, even better you can claim for all your food clothing bills travel etc, and then have the Gaul to come on TV and preach to us about how we all have to tighten our belts or we can’t have this or that medicine due to cost.
I get still get angry about their total inability to even see it as blatant massive corruption, anyone else would be in prison, if you or I tried to fiddle our expenses by just a few pounds would either be seriously carpeted or sacked but this lot just carry on as if they have only made the mistake of being caught, and what did they do when they were?, they started going on about how terrible the old system was and then in the next breath they came up with all the ways the old “broken” system can be fixed!, in my book that is an admittance that they all knew what they were doing was as illegal as hell.
Boy I wish we had the balls and the arms that the average Kyrgyzstan citizen has access to, at least they can use force to throw out the old corrupt regime, what do we have, oh yeah protest, nope wait a minute if it’s more than 20 people they can set the dogs of democracy on them to put the grubby little peasants back in line.
No Government has the right to treat it’s population with the contempt it does to us today, many years ago it was seen as a high honour to serve the country through politics today not so, ok you still had the odd rouge but also to balance it out you had men like the Winston Churchill, he was always short of money while in office his wife always kept trying to make ends meet, Churchill could have gone into some high paying business job, it never crossed his mind to do so, he said he felt it was his destiny to “do what was best” for England the day the PM resigned, he was in the room and no one came forward, he once said it was like an epiphany he felt the room come alive with electricity and at that one pint in time he knew what was needed so bravely he stepped forward and thank god he did, I don’t care if he was a drunk he was the right man in the right place, the same could be said for the US at the time, Frankly D Roosevelt who was cast from the same stuff, he used his political power to get as much help as he could for us here, he had a terrible fight in doing so as many US politicians wanted nothing to do with us or the violent war loving tribes of Europe, but again the right man was there to do his duty, today sadly it’s just a memory.
So as they try and bribe us all with a few pence a week think back to what we have all lost and what we have now to face, a media driven lying war of control and manipulation you and me, from the daily mail to BBC news 24 we are constantly fed negative images and figures to keep us all in a state of panic just to make us compliant I ask you to Google shock doctrine.
And as the great man Churchill once said and I quote, “ a lie will be half way round the world before the truth has even had the time to got it’s boots on”.

joanlawson

Dave's secret weapon :?: While I would like to see more women in parliament, I don't like this kind of photograph. It reminds me of the Blair's Babes photo of 1997.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1264330/Have-Camerons-Cuties-really-got-takes-transform-politics.html

Note how they have dressed down for the photo shoot so they don't look too posh. Do you think they were told to wear jeans ? It seems that image is all these days.

mellman01

Yes I know we did delboy but it was the only way he could get them all to agree to help typical yanks only interested in a %, I think you will find he would have given it to us for nowt if he could have, anyway it's bugger all to what we now have hagging around our neck!, maybe I have rose tinted specks but this lot take the flippin biscuit don't they, how many of them or their kin are willing to go fight in the wars they took us into, at least Churchill was up for a bit of danger now and then.

joyful164

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I have sent mine off and have really set out how the cancellation of DLA has affected me and must be affecting thousands of fellow sufferers too. I suppose the more of us who make our feelings felt is the answer, so come on everyone. This is important, Stop being complaisant It's the one's who don't vote who do all the moaning. Now who can I write to now.

Joy