Great Minds

joanlawson

Only "GreatMinds" can read
this

fi yuo cna
raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too

Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe
out of 100 can.

i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht
I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch
at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod
are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit
pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm.
Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

Jaon

skezier

Hey Joan,

I could read it easy but I'm dyslexic prior to a spell check that how I write x

joanlawson

Well, you're one of the 55 out of 100 then :!:

skezier

Joan do you think that means they are dyslexic as well x

joanlawson

No because I'm not dyslexic, and I can read it. I'm not sure who the other 45 are. :shock:

skezier

Do you think we could find them Joan? Hey your up late I hope your ok? A tablet induced haze has got me and I have half done the foal.... I hate to think what you poor people will make of it But its a good idea...... well will have to see what you think.....x

joanlawson

Cirs, I toguht yuor peom was vrey good. Tihs is qiuet good fun wirteng leki tihs :!:

Jaon

bertyboy

i too am one as i can read it x

angel1

bertyboy wrote:

i too am one as i can read it x

Et moi, aussi........or Te omi ssiau!

valval

skezier wrote:

Hey Joan,

I could read it easy but I'm dyslexic prior to a spell check that how I write x

me to no wonder i struggle to spell lol val

dreamdaisy

It's called orthographic reading, the third and final stage in aquiring reading skills (according to the model postulated by Uta Frith). I think it makes you realise what a truly tremendous skill it is. Dyslexics struggle with reading for either (or both) of these two reasons: a weak visual memory and/or a weak phonic memory. Can willingly provide further info for anyone on this if they're interested. DD

valval

dreamdaisy wrote:

It's called orthographic reading, the third and final stage in aquiring reading skills (according to the model postulated by Uta Frith). I think it makes you realise what a truly tremendous skill it is. Dyslexics struggle with reading for either (or both) of these two reasons: a weak visual memory and/or a weak phonic memory. Can willingly provide further info for anyone on this if they're interested. DD

in my case think it the phonic memory do tend to skip read not word for word as oh reads

dreamdaisy

Do you skip words because you don't see them? (That is not a daft question! If your eyes track at different rates words, and the letters within them, are sometimes not seen.) Phonic memory is memory for sound so not connected to the visual side of things. We have a very confusing alphabet, both visually and phonically. Just to further muddle the waters, fluent readers do not read every word - they skip the 'glue' words and just glean the essence of a sentence from the major components. They can also remember what they have read: weaker readers can struggle with remembering. It is a tricky business! DD

skezier

joanlawson wrote:

Cirs, I toguht yuor peom was vrey good. Tihs is qiuet good fun wirteng leki tihs :!:

Jaon

Hey Joan not if comes naturally x

Hi DD ah but it can also be beaten..... I know and though I still make mistakes I got there and a lot of us do Just need one person to reteach us with the knowledge of how we see and write letters and its possible to almost pass as normal Cris x

gickygawky

dreamdaisy wrote:

Do you skip words because you don't see them? (That is not a daft question! If your eyes track at different rates words, and the letters within them, are sometimes not seen.) Phonic memory is memory for sound so not connected to the visual side of things. We have a very confusing alphabet, both visually and phonically. Just to further muddle the waters, fluent readers do not read every word - they skip the 'glue' words and just glean the essence of a sentence from the major components. They can also remember what they have read: weaker readers can struggle with remembering. It is a tricky business! DD

Hi DD,

So would this skipping of the glue words be something that is taught?

I ask because I remember quite a few of my peers going on 'speed reading' courses before starting uni years ago so that they could cram as much study in as possible....

Arna x

dreamdaisy

No, in my opinion it's instinctive. You know the words you need to read and which you can safely ignore. Some people do get 'stuck' in the reading-every-word mode, and sometimes they are those who find reading difficult altho they're fluent, but natural speed readers know when they can (reading a novel on the beach) and when they can't (academic study for example). Quite how you would teach it, I don't know. You do need good tracking, convergence and focusing skills with the eyes. If you don't have that speed reading would be difficult. DD

gickygawky

dreamdaisy wrote:

No, in my opinion it's instinctive. You know the words you need to read and which you can safely ignore. Some people do get 'stuck' in the reading-every-word mode, and sometimes they are those who find reading difficult altho they're fluent, but natural speed readers know when they can (reading a novel on the beach) and when they can't (academic study for example). Quite how you would teach it, I don't know. You do need good tracking, convergence and focusing skills with the eyes. If you don't have that speed reading would be difficult. DD

Thanks for the response.

I don't know how much it helped any of them in the long run but I am sure they all paid a pretty penny for the privilege!

A x

joanlawson

dreamdaisy wrote:

It's called orthographic reading, the third and final stage in aquiring reading skills (according to the model postulated by Uta Frith). I think it makes you realise what a truly tremendous skill it is. Dyslexics struggle with reading for either (or both) of these two reasons: a weak visual memory and/or a weak phonic memory. Can willingly provide further info for anyone on this if they're interested. DD

Hi DD

It certainly does make you realise what a wonderful skill reading is. The English language is so complicated, and yet most children are able to master the basics of reading at an early age. It never ceases to amaze me.

Joan

babette

Hi Joan

I managed to read this quickly and easily, but then as a teacher of nursery and infant class children I have spent the best part of 10 years reading books upside down so the kids can see the pictures....so that probably helps. It was fun tho' and I'm quite chuffed that I'm one of the 55/100 who can.

B x

dreamdaisy

It certainly does. Read these words in your head or out loud:

a, day, name, rain, they, steak, weigh.

They all sound with what is termed an open 'a' vowel sound but there are seven different ways of spelling that sound, and that sound can change in a trice. Take the last word, weigh. Add /t/ to the end and you get 'weight' (still the open 'a'). Change the first letter to /h/ and you get 'height' (rhymes with bite, not pronounced as 'hate', so an open 'i' sound.)

Then you get the opposite. The letter string '-ough' can give seven different sounds, as in:

bough, dough, through, borough, though, rough, cough.

No wonder some struggle. DD

gickygawky

a, day, name, rain, they, steak, weigh.

Then you get the opposite. The letter string '-ough' can give seven different sounds, as in:

bough, dough, through, borough, though, rough, cough.

No wonder some struggle. DD[/quote]


My husband is dyslexic and this is exactly the sort of thing he has the most trouble with.

My reading and spelling is fine but the spelling of one simple word constantly eludes me.
Nine times out of ten I can't spell......
wait for it........

'was'.

I just cannot remember it for the life of me - go figure!

A x

joanlawson

Hi Arna

It's strange how you can get a blind spot for a particular word, no matter how many times you see it written down.

For 'was', just make up a little phrase like White As Snow to help you to remember.

Wonkylegs

babette wrote:

Hi Joan

I managed to read this quickly and easily, but then as a teacher of nursery and infant class children I have spent the best part of 10 years reading books upside down so the kids can see the pictures....so that probably helps. It was fun tho' and I'm quite chuffed that I'm one of the 55/100 who can.

B x

B you put it so well I had to cheat and copy your words

having spent 13 years reading what 5-7 year olds write it was a doddle but good fun too!!!!

I'll not worry about my arthritis-finger wonky spelling so much now

suncatcher

Ive seen this before thats how dyslexics see words. My hubby read upside down and had to be tought how to read the right way round.
He reads what the teacher has on her notes at parents night because its upside down they dont know its being read by hubby. He gets to know what teachers not saying.

dreamdaisy

It's the little words that are the hardest to handle. They have nothing to clue you in. John Updike, a great novelist if you like his stuff, can't spell 'the'. There are four words I cannot spell, including guarantee (I remember it as 'g-war-an-tee'.) Joanlawson is spot on to give you a mnemonic.

Spelling skill is down to visual memory, a weak area for many, hence the difficulties with the 'easy' (no such thing) little words. You know which there/their you want, or bare/bear or peel/peal or hear/here by a)context and b)visual memory. Read this in your head or aloud:

The too bares went into the woulds to fined there meet.

Looks all wrong, sounds fine. DD

annie_mial

Just caught up with this one, I've seen something similar before. I have no trouble reading them.

I do speed-read, DD, often got told off at school for being lazy! I couldn't work it out then as I'd finished the book while others were still struggling with page 4.

The point about visual memory is interesting, too. My mother was an avid reader and a whiz at spelling as is my eldest daughter. We were discussing it one time when my youngest daughter was there (she has difficulty with spelling, but no trouble with reading) and discovered that the three of us 'saw' words as images and consequently could spell them immediately. Dawn didn't and tried to train herself to do so with some success.

I'm finding now that anno domini and arther are taking their toll. Words I could spell perfectly well half an hour ago just hit a dumb note when I try to type them the next time!

Annie