Problems with drugs.... I mean me not society, lol.

skezier

Hi All,

Some of you know I am trashed with more arthritis than I ever thought possible I got a few other problems as well and it all mixes up to make for a rough ride at times...

only this time its remained bad for ages.

Just been to visit a mate and that was so good and totally helped as they made me realize I do still cope..... just back home.... there is a lot to do, the employers (a bunch of manky animals) are more demanding as they haven't had me to pester for a bit and the dogs were away as well....

I got this as well.... we did talk about making her a forum mascot so if you want she is willing

http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af237/skezier/DSC03777.jpg

I had a scan on the lumber again to see just what it is actually up to... got no reflexes and the pain has kinda hit a new level but its been shift for years just its worse... or I am becoming more of a wimp?!

The results... don;t hold your breathe for and what they will do is likely to be nothing cus of this palliative care garbage and the fact the spine is so bad.

Any way back to the drugs....

I know some of you take the Oxycontin I am meant to take 20mg 2x a day... and they really do help but here's the rub...

20 makes me throw up like hell and I become a 'bit' stoned if they are too close to the pregabs... take 300 of then a time (600 a day) and they are also well able to make me stoned...

So help....

I can't spend time being sick like this but can't spend my life with so much pain....

Apart from a bullet through the brain has anyone got any ideas please?

The gp said the only thing left is higher dose of the oxy or a side step to the mst which also really makes me throw up.....

Hope your all okish and the sun is shining on your bit of the UK... tis here though the 5am bottle feed was some cold to take to her

Leaving tea and a (((( ))))'s for them what wants... and them that don't cus its good for them Cris x

The eyes are still bad so a quick edit of a few of the mistakes...... sorry.....

dreamdaisy

Oh! She is ADORABLE! Utterly, utterly lovely, it's the ears that do it for me, as well as the rather 'knowing' look. Skezier, what a little treasure you have there my lovely, and I for one think she would make a wonderful forum mascot so you have my vote. I hope Her Ladysheep and Breagh are settling well with her.

Now, as for the meds, I can't help in the slightest. I know nothing about the oxy or the gab never having taken them and I feel the choice has to be yours but full support is promised with whichever way you go. I don't fully grasp the pressures you are under with the Ark (and that new addition is obviously needing a great deal of care at the moment), I struggle with looking after another human being, but surely what is essential is that you are sufficiently alert to be dealing with it all. My suspicion is that that will come at some cost to you, physically, but thus it ever was. I guess it comes down to the rancid choice of throwing up a little or throwing up a lot. Ye gods, girl, that ain't much of a choice, is it? Hugs, love, draughts of bone healer and copes are sent with good will. DD

woodbon

Hi, I'd go back to the doctor and tell them about the problem. It might be that they can stop the sickness and nausia with an anti-emetic. Hopefully that would help you feel better and take the drug thats most effective. I hope you soon can find something to help you as it must be horrible for you. :x

I don't take that drug, I'm on Tramadol and when I started it my GP warned me it may make me sick. If it did, to ring in and speak to her and she would prescribe an anti-emetic to help stop the sickness and nausia. Luckily it didn't cause that problem for me. Love Suexx

freesia

Cute Lamb............xxxx

Have a sunny Sunday xxxx

skezier

Hi DD, Sue and Freesia,

She is so lovely and given me reason to fight back again... lost the fight for a whole...

DD I think your right it will some down to throw up or real bad grinding pain..... Trouble is the pain is that bad you think maybe they wont make me sick tonight and then take them.....

A hour later... and the throwing up the spine and neck do not like so more pain today than usual cus of the night...

Your right I do have to be relatively alert.... All I could do last night is feed these in between the bouts of throwing up... not life is it?!

This lot can confirm....

Hope your feeling a lot better in your self today? Tea and a kick of that hug bucket... does it need replacing cus I have a very nice brass one just ready to jump in if it does. xx

Sue tis good to see you and hope you and jerry are okish?

I see the doc on the 11th but I already take 3 anti-emeticas and its not enough with the 20....

I kinda thinking like the pregabs (DD don;t get put off them I got a whole chunk of life back from the pregabalin) maybe i stagger the dose? It took me a long time to get to the 300 pregabs in one hit..... maybe the oxy's can be taken in the same way....

I got the quick release for top up but they too can make me sick.... Tis a juggling act eh? Tea and a ((((( ))))) xx

Oh Freesia she is so cute and has a very sweet disposition We were out in the sun just now and she is eating grass, she will be over to creep soon as well less bottles though I wont wean her for months yet

My big sheep are split over her just now..... the old lady (who is the right honorable lady Wishtiria-Ithink-Youwillfind-Thats mne) is sweet and keeps licking and sniffing her but the other (an old flock girl) is a bit rough here and there so she has to be penned in between our walks out. She was playing chase me with the dog earlier... hey she was doing that with my friends grandchildren... she loves chase me

You have a happy sunny Sunday too. ((((( ))))) and a nice comfy chair to sit in the sun with xx

dreamdaisy

Oh flower, I won't be put off anything drug-wise - you know me by now, if it's meant to help I'll give it a whirl and see what's what. It just seems so unfair that things are that rough for you that nothing helps but hey, what a ridiculous concept fairness is. Life never has been, and never will be, yet we still hold some regard for the nonsensical notion. If anything girl, I'm angry that you find yourself in such a horrid dilemma. I hope that your break from the Ark etc did you some good - you needed that holiday and I am so pleased you were able to do it. DD

lindalegs

Hi Cris,

What a lovely forum mascot and good to see you back!

I was on Oxycontin, last year along with Oxynorm after my TKR but was only on them for a couple of months. They are great for the pain. They didn't make me sick so I wonder if they're colliding with some of your other meds and that's making you so ill. Sometimes it only needs an adjustment to get things to work together. It's also a possibility that if you're taking a large dose twice a day it's a too big a hit for your system - I wonder if they could give you a lower dose of tablet but you take them more regularly so you still get the same amount of the drug but its not such a shock to your system. I know what I mean anyway :oops:

Sending healing hugs and a strong cuppa (((( )))))

Love,

dorcas

Hiya Cris :!:

loved the pic of your little lamb.... she looks as though 'butter wouldn't melt'.. but I know there is a lot of Scottish fire in that tiny frame!

Ruby is asking when she can play chase again... and this time she'll not let her win! ha ha!

I'm sorry the slow release Oxys have been hard on you at that dosage it's a constant battle trying to find the right balance between pain relief and side effects. I'm on similar opioid and can't take more than 10mgs Oxycodone without feeling nauseous....even when taking anti-emetics to counteract it , so I sympathise with what you are going through my friend. :roll: My doc said that Oxycodone is stronger than MST... so swapping over may not be the answer if it doesn't control the pain?.

Your post reminded me of something my (new) doc told me and that maybe other peeps here need to check out with their docs or rheummys; He said that Oxcodone(Oxycontin) / Oxynorm shouldn't be taken in conjunction with Tramadol as they interact. :shock: and therefore Tramadol should be discontinued whilst on the Oxycontin (slow release)
.... Oxynorm, which is rapid release, is prescribed with Oxycodone for 'breakthrough pain' during the day in place of the Trams

This came as a shock to me as I've been on both previously and hadn't been given that info by anyone!. Since then I have asked my rheummy who agreed that I shouldn't be on both drugs. :shock:
Worth checking out?

Hope Lady Wish doesn't have to put up with being jumped on for much longer (although I suspect she will) and that little miss lamb learns good manners soon
BTW how are the new chicks settling down?
Iris xx

pinkbritishstars

Hugs Cris xxxx

barbara12

Hi Cris my love
Its so good to her from you and to see you had a goodish break, it really did come at the right time, and the weather was ordered for you...
But I am sorry you are struggling with the meds...like Linda says they sounds like they are reacting with the other meds...sorry Im not much help...is there anyone at the surgery or hospital that can help, it awful when the meds make you sick on top of everything else.
Has for the lovely Lamb...she is gorgeous...and has I always say she is so lucky to find you...
Take care...sending you loads of gentle healing hugs (((((())))

julie47

Hi Cris

What a little beauty she is. She is so very cute and would make anyone feel better what a lovely forum mascot.

I am sorry I can not help you with your meds and that they are making you sick. I hope that when you see the doc he comes up with a solution for you.
So all I can do is send more ((((((((()))))))))

Take care
Love juliepf xx

PatriciaH

Love and hugs to poorly you and your beautiful little lamb.
She is absolutely gorgeous and would lift anyone's spirits
Although I don't reply often I do read the posts everyday and you are such a comfort to so many Cris. My heart really goes out to you and I hope your docs will try really hard to help you in some way to manage your pain without the sickness. What you are going through is really awful
With love Patricia x

stickywicket

Skezier, it is lovely to see you posting again but not so lovely about the meds problem. I’ve never done either so can’t help, I’m afraid. It’s not the greatest of choices, is it?

As for the new addition – she is just drop dead gorgeous. I’m told she does the full vertical take off thing too. Maybe we could all use a few sheep genes - I'd be able to jump and look lovely.

salamander

Hi Cris, what a lovely mascot. I want one!

Sorry to hear about the struggle with the drugs. It's so hard to get the balance right, maybe you need to juggle them a bit.

Am trying to type with one hand right now so will come back when I've got both in use.
take care. xx

hileena111

Hi Petal
Isnt she beautiful I've got her on my mobile...our mutual friend text it to me.
I'm so glad you had that break and that it helped a bit.
Sorry I know nothing about the meds.Not much help there

Just sending loads of cope, ((((())))))) and tea in the stay warm mug.
Great to hear you again
Love
Hileena

skezier

As ever you are so supportive! I so thank you for your help yet again... you must get so bored but I have a challenging life I wont let go off and every so often I see it crashing around my ears .... but Alba will help me for sure and already has given me the lift I so badly needed...

The break was lovely and I so enjoyed seeing my friend Since she gave her self away... Iris is magic but we already knew that. How many people would have a lamb in their shed and do the morning feeds first thing

Bless her that's one well traveled lamb, from Lanark to Cornall via yorkshire is something most lambs don't get to do Caused a bit of a stir in a couple of service stations as we ha to stop for bottles.... her not me... though by the end of the drive I could have done with one

Just fro you DD Miss Alba Big Ears

http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af237/skezier/SheepandAlba034.jpg

Helping to put chicken to bed..... there scared of her

http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af237/skezier/SheepandAlba025.jpg

Paying Homage.... Wish is really lovely and age has not mellowed her

http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af237/skezier/SheepandAlba013.jpg

She is lovely and due a feed.....

All fed and tis cold again eh?

DD Yep the 5 year old inside is stamping its feet yelling life's not fair ( I used to do that but with what was happening to me at 5 I had a point )

It will come down to how much pain can I take v/s how mush throwing up can I cope with.... tonight the pain wins hands down but other night as it doesn't.... 10 isn't enough but I can;t handle 20 .... more anti emetyics of maybe as Legs says smaller amounts to go up gentle... Iris said it wa a big jump and my body agrees. Some top up ((((( ))))) and hopes xx

Legs I am thinking the same way... could they do 5 mg slow release to try and step it less step and get used to that then go for the 20.... Its the fact there is nothing behind it that makes me feel i have to get used to them.....

Its not good though is it? I never been good with morphine, was on the mst for a long time and threw up daily..... I can't go back to that this lot said loudly....

ta for the tea and leaving you a refill and a ((((( ))))) xx

Iris Forget that bit and had you not told me that a few weeks ago I would be even sicker as the gp left me on trams 4 x a day with the oxynorms and even the oxycontin.... not right is it?

When I said to the gp she agreed I shouldn't take both but they only told me that cus I said hat you had said..... they should know better eh?!

Mind they were trying to help.

You tell Rubes she will have to come see her as she is too big for the cage now Hey your end needs feeding... we won't talk about my end... not my own end I hasten to add... wont talk about that either.....

When your in a hole throw out the shovel springs to mind

Leaving tea (there is enough in Leg's pot) a ((((( ))))) and a hope the 10 will keep helping us both enough to not go higher.... xxx

Pink thanks for the hugs and some coming back to you. ((((( ))))) xx

Barbara I think they just make me sick really.... the other meds... they do create a slight problem if taken with the [pregabs.... the pregabs are also capable of tripping you and don;t normally now but they do tend to react with the oxys... 2 fairly strong drugs together I guess....

I see the gp on the 11th... oh my friend is there any point They just sympathise but nothing changes..... I having alfare just now as well cus the wrists and knees are swollen and hurting as well as the spine and neck in over drive....

Going to find out about private x-rays though....

Leaving more tea (Legs gave us a bit pot) and a ((((( ))))) as well as a hope your doing ok cus I haven't caught up yet xx

Julie hug bcak for you and a hope your ok and warm enough cus its cold tonight xx

[b Patricia ][/b] That's kind of you to say and nice to see you post I hope your okish and leaving you some tea and a ((((( ))))) as well as a don;t be a stranger to much xx

Sticky she is beautiful./..... I might be bias though Best dotting mother going again for now..... Wouldn't it be good to have that energy though?! She bounced the chicken too much to be called a helper though and played chase me with himself as well.

The oxy's are good though but my stomach can;t take them so maybe there is some way around it else hobson's choice it is..... Some ((((( ))))) from the canine gentleman and the lodgers will be back soon and foaling will be here.... worried aster last year I have to say.... xx

Sal sorry I am behind on pm's will get back to you tomorrow cus i some tired today... again another residue of being sick half the night eh? Hope that hand will soon be a lot better. Leaving tea and a ((((( ))))) xx

Hileena thanks flower and the tea was just the right temp so refilling it and leaving it and ((((( ))))) for the morning, xx

Right am going to catch up on pm's tomorrow I promise.

Alba will have he next feed at 1.15 its a bit early but she wont mind then off to find the electric blanket You all take care.xx

barbara12

Oh Cris
She is lovely..thanks for the pics..what I would give just to cuddle her...and I will save some for you...
Gosh that was some journey...no wonder you are tired..but well worth it by the sounds..you take care....some healing hugs coming your way ((((())) xx

dachshund

Hi Cris.
its nice to see you on the forum.i'm sorry you are in so much pain.
what a lovely colour the lamb is thank you for showing the pictures to us.
((((((((cris))))))))
take care.
joan xx

jilly

Hi Cris , I am taking the same meds as yourself and had some problems with them . When i went in hospital for my last TKR I had to up my oxycontin to 35 twice a day and my pregabalin to 300 , i felt horrible and sick all the time , some times i felt like i was off my head to.
Now I am down to 10s twice a day and 150 pregabalin and the sickness has gone away , i was on 20s before i went in and oxynorm for breakthrough but i didnt feel sick then . i think it was the higher dose of pregabalin with the high dose of oxy that made me feel ill .
I find it hard living with all this pain and i am glad i have meds that help but it is hard to live with the meds .
I hope you are doing ok and sorting your pain , thinking of you and sending you a hug ..jilly xx
You may remember me from last year i had the trouble with my chickens knocking me over lolx

dreamdaisy

I am in love. I am SO in love. She is absolutely gorgeous! Right, I'm filling up Daisy and driving to Cornwall to do a feed (in my dreams anyway ) Did Iris really have her in her shed? :shock: You make for the most unusual houseguest, skezier! DD

skezier

jilly wrote:

Hi Cris , I am taking the same meds as yourself and had some problems with them . When i went in hospital for my last TKR I had to up my oxycontin to 35 twice a day and my pregabalin to 300 , i felt horrible and sick all the time , some times i felt like i was off my head to.
Now I am down to 10s twice a day and 150 pregabalin and the sickness has gone away , i was on 20s before i went in and oxynorm for breakthrough but i didnt feel sick then . i think it was the higher dose of pregabalin with the high dose of oxy that made me feel ill .
I find it hard living with all this pain and i am glad i have meds that help but it is hard to live with the meds .
I hope you are doing ok and sorting your pain , thinking of you and sending you a hug ..jilly xx
You may remember me from last year i had the trouble with my chickens knocking me over lolx

Thanks for your post Jilly and of course I remember you. Hope the chicken behaving better now? Mine don't and will try an get under your feet and cus I am lurching just now they nearly get stood on a lot.

I have kept the pregabs at 300 2x but dropped the oxy's down to 10 2x again..... will see what the doc says on the 11th cus 10 isn't enough and well I's getting some tired

skezier

Oh Barbara she is lovely and growing daily.... she might get very big and is about the same size Wish was at her age... Wish also has a bit of cheroley in her. I don't know how big the textiles are though.... I think bigger than solfolks (wish's othr half) so we shall see.

Hope your ok and leaving a ((((( )))))) and a cuppa Cris xx

DD yep she did... thats all I am saying I know the car still smells of sheep and hope the shed and back lobby doesn't....... tea and a hope the shirt is ironed? I ducked again ((((( ))))) xx

Hi Joan leaving you and Sue special hugs and hopes your both feeling a lot better. Love and ((((( ))))) to you both xx