gum guard

valval
valval Member Posts: 14,911
edited 15. Jun 2012, 14:34 in Living with Arthritis archive
just been to dentist he said tooth pain coming from clentching teeth at night need gum guard cost 209 on n h s told him would have to wait not got money this month.
do they help has any one had one?.and anyone that has gaging problems?.
any thing in my mouth makes me gag and feel sick do not want to pay this money out if not going to be able to stand it in help please also how bad was it having mould done would hate to throw up on him lol. val
val

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  • dreamdaisy
    dreamdaisy Member Posts: 31,520
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Oh dear, poor you, that is not a nice thing to be confronted by. What an extortionate cost for something that you may not be able to use - I'm with Del on this, experiment first with a shop-bought model, they are much cheaper and see if that helps. (()) DD
    Have you got the despatches? No, I always walk like this. Eddie Braben
  • fowls48
    fowls48 Member Posts: 1,357
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Hi Val

    I worked with a fellow whom had one of these guards , He said it did not works but i feel maybe he did not use it .You can purchase a tooth whitener kit which has these gum shields in the pack maybe you could try this first , and if you do not like .do not bother with the dentist .
    karen.xx
  • frogmorton
    frogmorton Member Posts: 30,326
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Val

    they tried to get me to buy one of these too when my jaw 'went', but I have managed perfectly well without by TRYING hard to relax my mouth last thing at night as I drop off and taking my anti-inflams.

    I initially thought I had toothache, but was away at the time and had a dental apt already booked for a few weeks time. One day on cleaning my teeth it clicked and stuck almost shut!! It was agony and soft food ony till it sorted.

    Another dentist tried to get my eldest to have one too.

    Tis your choice though and i really hope it eases for you soon :(

    Love

    Toni xxx
  • tillytop
    tillytop Member Posts: 3,460
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    So sorry Val.

    My Mum has a toothguard because, like you, she was grinding her teeth in the night which gave her very bad headaches. It certainly works well for her and she has used it for years now. Although a custom made one may well be best in the long term if you can afford it, I think that, given what you have said about gagging, the suggestions about trying something "over the counter" first are sensible.

    Hope you get some relief from this soon.

    Tillyxxx
  • valval
    valval Member Posts: 14,911
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    my son has fetched a rugby one you heat in water so molds to mouth will at least see if works will wait and see if we end up unemployed would not have to pay then it a lot of money when you on short time will be good and take co cods at night and do my exercises lol but at least i know it not absess could not have coped with that at weekend again lol thanks for replys val
    val
  • barbara12
    barbara12 Member Posts: 21,281
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Good luck with it Val...these dentist do try it on...I honestly cant see why the ruby one wont work..let us know how it goes it will be helpful to others that have the same prob.
    Love
    Barbara
  • salamander
    salamander Member Posts: 1,906
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Hi val, I've got a really strong gag reflex and my dentist cut the guard at the back so it doesn't provoke the reflex. It works fine and stops the headaches I get from tooth grinding, also toothache as well. Go for it. Once they've made the mould you've got it for life and, although it seems a lot of money, will save you money in the long term.
  • succotash
    succotash Member Posts: 83
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    I had one a few years ago. I used to clench and grind my teeth at night, still do!

    I used to put the guard in at night and each and every morning it was in my bed somewhere!

    So not a great success here really. Not sure I would fork out £200 for one.

    Good luck with the rugby one they are very similar.
    How come I'm over the hill and rapidly going down it, when I don't even recall reaching the summit?
  • lynnmick
    lynnmick Member Posts: 72
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    hi Val,

    that seems a little pricey to me my son had one last year and it cost him around £70, it does work but dentist advised him to rest off it now and again for a week, has if used all the time it can become ineffective.

    Lynn x
  • Wonkylegs
    Wonkylegs Member Posts: 3,504
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Hi Val,

    I have a mouth guard. My dentist recommended it as I was experiencing jaw pain, chewing problems and apparently was grinding my teeth at night.

    He apologised that the NHS wishes to charge £200+ and said he wasn't happy about that.

    He then offered to make that part of my treatment Private and charged me £90 for the guard.

    His advice was also to wear it durin the day for short periods, to avoid problems when wearing it at night.

    it helps... to me it was worth it ... and yes, there are some nights when it doesn't stay in all night, but he said that didn't matter (and it makes for a giggle when we hunt the missing mouth guard :lol: )

    Wonky
  • valval
    valval Member Posts: 14,911
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    just looked on nhs charges and yes it cost the same as crowns dentures etc well will not cope with it had gum guard in for 5-10 min at a time as soon as toung touched it started gaging will try moulding it again and try again tonight val
    val
  • dreamdaisy
    dreamdaisy Member Posts: 31,520
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    This does not augur well for you, the gag reflex is an important natural process but it can be inconvenient - I cannot cope that well with tongue scraping for the same reason. Keep trying valval, if you can avoid further dental problems then that would be good. ((())) DD
    Have you got the despatches? No, I always walk like this. Eddie Braben
  • salamander
    salamander Member Posts: 1,906
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    valval wrote:
    just looked on nhs charges and yes it cost the same as crowns dentures etc well will not cope with it had gum guard in for 5-10 min at a time as soon as toung touched it started gaging will try moulding it again and try again tonight val


    Val, did you try off the shelf one? The thing about one that is moulded to your mouth is that it will fit exactly so won't touch your tongue at the back. Dentist cut off moulding for back teeth as that is where it causes gagging and it still works. I promise you, you will be fine with it :) I never thought I would be able to use one!
  • PowerOn
    PowerOn Member Posts: 200
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Hi Val,
    my self and 2 of my children have these guards they are a real help to us.
    We all clench and grind our teeth, we were told replacement ones on the NHS were £80, your dentist is very expensive.
    The difference I found between the sports guards and the dentist ones are the sports guards are much harder as they are to resist impact, there may be softer ones, also they are not as comfortable as the fitted ones as they are not made to fit.
    My guard gets chewed through in a few months so I really did need it, it has stopped my fillings needing repaired so often as I am not able to grind my teeth so that is a big help.
    Before the guard I had a lot of jaw pain and could not open my mouth much.
    During the day I relax my jaw until it feels really loose, It was a surprise how clenced I hold my jaw without realising I do it.
    If I forget to wear my guard I notice the difference, using the guard has completly fixed my jaw.
    I agree with other posts try a soft sports guard.
    My guard is for the upper teeth but my daughter got one recently which is for the lower teeth, do not know if it is for dental reasons or just an improvement in design.
    She had no problems wearing hers from the beginning nor did I but the other child took a long time to stop spitting it out in her sleep.
    Best joke I ever read, "With that information and a diagnosis of spondylosis, your doctor can develop a treatment plan‏" or back in reality totally ignore you. Is ok I have a sense of humour and a boxing glove, not defeated yet.
  • earthspirit
    earthspirit Bots Posts: 278
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    http://www.arthritiscare.org.uk/forums/living-with-arthritis-forum-f8/arthritis-test-will-end-pain-for-millions-t32953.html

    read my posts on this thread for answers nobody will tell you about tooth pain. before you wreck your mouth like i have done!