Horsemeat in Burger's, for or against

alanthemanc

I know people say there's nothing wrong with it, and it tastes ok, but it's a no from me, I'll stick to the vegeburgers. Alanthemanc.

alanthemanc

Am I flogging a dead horse, with this thread :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

dreamdaisy

Hello Alan, how's things? How's Carlos? I hope he's still functioning in the cold - and that applies to you too!

Horse is a popular meat in other countries but I think the trouble the UK faces with it is that, because some find it repugnant to eat the flesh of something which can 'overlap' into petdom, therefore the rest of us should. I have no objection but I saw that the ranges I saw being withdrawn from the shelves were hardly quality products. This has probably been going on for years, if you buy ten burgers for a quid or whatever surely you have to wonder what's in 'em. If the DDs eat burgers or meatballs they're ones I make. Lean minced steak, onion, garlic, smidge of crushed chillies, fennel seeds, black pepper, raw egg to bind and wet hands to shape. Simples. DD

dreamdaisy

Nice one, Alan! Puns a'plenty were coming in on Drive, e.g. I had one of these and now I have the bit between my teeth; I had one and now have the trots etc etc etc! Made me laugh but then most things do.

robertls

Having spent 3 weeks in Iceland last summer, and eaten horse on several occassions, (it replaces beef there), I thought it was very good........

However, If you buy beef burgers......you'd expect beef....in some form or the other.....

Ireland traditionally produces many horses, for racing, hunting, and 'pet' trade......

I guess with the current financial state, there must be many horses surplus to requirements, and someone has found an 'outlet' for that surplus.......

Tastes nothing like chicken.....

tkachev

Tesco's claim they don't know how horse meat got into the burgers so I'm wondering if somebody at the factory has been flogging off the beef cheap and replacing it with horse meat. Now that would worry me because it might not be horse meat next time. Its the breaching of rules that worries me-I'm sure horse meat is fine.

But Alan I'm cutting down on my meat intake too. Quorn tastes fine as a replacement.

Elizabeth

stickywicket

Before I stopped eating meat I ate horsemeat in France. Meat is meat whether it comes from a horse or a cow and I don't buy into the 'pet' distinction.

Surely the problem comes from not knowing what’s on the plate or whether it’s fit for human consumption. If they’re lying about what sort of meat then what else are they lying about?

dreamdaisy

Cheaper commercial 'beef' burgers are consituted from mechanically recovered meat and that's why you don't want to know what's in them. Surely there is no ethical difference between eating pig, deer sheep, cow, game and chicken but dog, cat, guinea pig, rabbit, horse? It's a cultural thing.

Last year 'im indoors and me went to Cambridge, he tried antelope and zebra because he had the opportunity. I stuck to fish but that's what I do. Give me fish any day (apart from gurnard, it's horrid). DD

newbygran

think I will stick to vedgie burgers, and hope the carrots are real :oops:

LignumVitae

Im not too bothered at the thought of eating horse. I love to cook and eat goat but I usually have to convince others it's worth a try which I never understand. It's meat isn't it?! The investigation into the burgers started with them wanting to know what the offal content was...they never said if it was horse offal or horse steaks they found. I'm with DD, if you want to be sure what is in it, make it yourself from scratch.

alanthemanc

D.D.
Yeh, still lurking on Arthritis Care, Carlos is a bit cold at the mo, still some familier names knocking about on here, keep it up.

dreamdaisy

I'm glad to read you're lurking, that's good to know 'cos I reading enjoy your posts. Daisy is going to have to brace herself today - I have to get her off the drive so someone else can do the wheelie bin. I'll wait until after lunch by which time she'll have warmed through a little, tyres and all.

There was a good debate about the horse thing yesterday on 5Live, now they're discussing whether crabs and prawns etc can feel pain. I can, so why can't they? The thinking was that because they lack a backbone they wouldn't but they must have nerves, how else would they know what they're touching is food or not? Or do they just take pot luck? (as opposed to pot noodle ) DD

LignumVitae

Would that be lobster pot luck?

bubbadog

Seeing a report about it on the Six O'Clock news last night it has put me off burgers even more now!
And I read on Matt Cardle's Twitter page that he found a part of chicken brain in his chicken nuggets from McDonald's!! He said it had put him off McDonald's and what made him laugh was McDonald's sent him some vouchers for food!! What is going on with food these days? What will we hear about next!?

rondetto

I quite like beef burgers, but wouldn't dream of buying from a supermarket.
I always buy from a local butcher who uses best lean mince beef.

dachshund

Hello Alan
i would never eat or buy horse meat i had my own horse.
i dont mind what others eat but its not for me.
take care
joan xx

tkachev

I can see why you would not want to eat horse meat Dacshund. I would feel the same about dog and cat meat but whose to say that doesn't get used as a filler as well? If all ingredients were listed it would be down to choice but they know very few would buy the products if they knew what went into them.

Elizabeth