Rhumatoid and food

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  • bitsinabag
    bitsinabag Member Posts: 30
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
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    I can sort of see where you are coming from and it's great you have identified such a straightforward relationship between certain foods and your disease activity. For me though I know that food isn't a trigger to disease activity. I know my trigger is when my body becomes run down through illness, tiredness or stress. I do aim to minimise those as much as possible but it isn't possible to avoid all illnesses, especially when you live with small children and a husband who works somewhere with a high volume of people who aren't always in the best of health. Similarly I can't remove all stress or tiredness from my life. As much as your food elimination may work for you I think suggesting that others are daft for not attempting it isn't necessarily accurate. RA varies massively between people and I think it's fair to suggest triggers may as well.

    As somebody who has recently been diagnosed as anaemic due to the arthritis which has caused my symptoms to become worse I think it would be quite dangerous to unbalance my diet by eliminating food groups which is something others should also be aware of. All official advice regarding diet and RA suggests a good balance or a Mediterranean diet rich in vegetables, fruits and fish.

    ((((())))) to Numpty, I hope you get some rest from such awful pain soon
    Hi L V
    I am being mis-quoted left right and centre.I do not suggest dropping food groups under any circumstances. I eat all sorts of non trigger carbs. along with a very varied diet.
    What I propose recording on a single A4 all of one`s inputs particularly food and drink, as well as `wellbeing` 1-9, daily and then look for patterns.
    If none appear over the course of 2 or3 weeks then no harm done
    If however there are patterns of corresponding improvement or reduction in `wellbeing` then dig deeper into those inputs to find if there is a particular ingredient they have in common .
    If you find an input that associates then either eliminate it for a week - and I do mean eliminate it - if the effect is negative on your wellbeing, (or take more if the association is positve.)

    As a record sheet a `portrait` A4 on Excel with days of the week as columns and a list of inputs as lines, 25-30 is enough. The last line is `wellbeing`on a scale of 1-9.
    Both below and beside the columns leave a space for notes.
    There is no risk in recording what you would do anyway.
    If you do find an association between input and wellbeing and you are concerned about a change discuss it with your doctor before acting on it.
    From experience allurgy testing shows no result even with identified trigger associations.
    All the best
    bitsinabag
  • bitsinabag
    bitsinabag Member Posts: 30
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    Hello again everyone. Somerset King has done a podcast on the subject of RA and food. http://www.paddisonprogram.com in conjunction with Clint Paddison.
    I hope you find it helpful.

    All the best
    bitsinabag

    Hi,

    I need to add here that the paddison diet is an advert for Dr Greger to sell his programme, in the podcast he is somewhat disparaging of the rheumatology specialists in the UK, although his experience is with the US. Advertising is not supported by Arthritis Care, nor are unhelpful comments regarding rheumatology consultants.

    Moderator Yvonne
  • bitsinabag
    bitsinabag Member Posts: 30
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
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    bitsinabag wrote:
    Hello again everyone. Somerset King has done a podcast on the subject of RA and food. http://www.paddisonprogram.com in conjunction with Clint Paddison.
    I hope you find it helpful.

    All the best
    bitsinabag

    Hi,

    I need to add here that the paddison diet is an advert for Dr Greger to sell his programme, in the podcast he is somewhat disparaging of the rheumatology specialists in the UK, although his experience is with the US. Advertising is not supported by Arthritis Care, nor are unhelpful comments regarding rheumatology consultants.

    Moderator Yvonne
    Hi thanks for letting me know. I had not heard about him or his organisation prior to Somerset telling me yesterday about her message . Having listened to the podcast I commented that I was unsure where he drew the line between care and commerce!
    bitsinabag
  • bitsinabag
    bitsinabag Member Posts: 30
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
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    Hi everyone,
    medicine moves on, year on year more complexities uncovered. Genetic, lifestyle, gut bacteria and enzymes, the weather, the passage of time and events are all seen to be significant factors in the condition we find ourself as we first raise an eyelid each day.
    How to find the best way - anyway forward?
    We all take decisions. Do more of this, take more of that, avoid them, see this specialist, talk to that person. Do nowt and wait and see!
    For me recording my inputs and my wellbeing - an awkward but useful term - I picked up Cause and Effect patterns very quickly, modified my behaviour, and reaped the benefit.
    For no better reason than it might work for you I am making this post now.

    All the best
    bitsinabag
  • andyswarbs
    andyswarbs Member Posts: 5
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
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    bitsinabag wrote:
    bitsinabag wrote:
    Hello again everyone. Somerset King has done a podcast on the subject of RA and food. http://www.paddisonprogram.com in conjunction with Clint Paddison.
    I hope you find it helpful.

    All the best
    bitsinabag

    Hi,

    I need to add here that the paddison diet is an advert for Dr Greger to sell his programme, in the podcast he is somewhat disparaging of the rheumatology specialists in the UK, although his experience is with the US. Advertising is not supported by Arthritis Care, nor are unhelpful comments regarding rheumatology consultants.

    Moderator Yvonne
    Hi thanks for letting me know. I had not heard about him or his organisation prior to Somerset telling me yesterday about her message . Having listened to the podcast I commented that I was unsure where he drew the line between care and commerce!
    bitsinabag
    I followed the paddison program with success as well.

    Btw I don't think Dr Greger sells anything at all. His website is free and his book, How Not to Die sells with all proceeds going to charity.
  • stickywicket
    stickywicket Member Posts: 27,716
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    He sells lots of books. I've no idea if all the proceeds go to charity but, if you're thinking that a non-profit company is a charity, it's not. My son worked for one when he first went to USA. They don't pay shareholders but, after paying everyone, put any other money back into the organisation.

    Dr Greger has a lot of books for sale on all sorts of vaguely medical topics on Amazon but, as for the one you mention 'How Not to Die' I'll save you the bother of buying it. The answer is Don't Get Born. And anyone who thinks there's a different answer deserves to lose their money :wink:
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