Oh well, my hands are clean.

dreamdaisy

Ya think? :shock:

Yesterday me and him had a little trip to the seaside (aaaaaah!) because the weather was lovely (oooooh!) and I had a frock to collect from a shop (cor!) We had coffee in the restaurant / bar of a lovely Georgian hotel and, whilst I waited to pay the bill, I idly observed the solitary waitress who was serving other people.

She had briefly rinsed her hands under a running tap before serving but had then dried them down her work apron, touched glasses, beer pumps, a touch-screen till, the counter-top and handled money, including coins. The customers then added to their order, requiring a tonic with ice and lime. The lime was pre-cut and in a bowl in front of me, uncovered. She bustled through with the glass and ice but couldn't find the tongs to pick up the lime. 'Oh well,' she said, 'My hands are clean.'

Us immuno-suppressed bods are up against it, aren't we? DD

mig

Its a never ending battle,I check my bag before I go out,wet wipes check gel spray check,then we venture out.

stickywicket

Scary, isn't it?

I watch food programmes where, before the beautiful-looking plates go out, a dirty cloth is whipped from round the chef's waist and used to ensure an immaculate :? finish.

When dining out I often find this site useful https://www.scoresonthedoors.org.uk/ . It tells you hygiene ratings for all sorts of establishments.

Hobble

This is now a big concern for me with the PsA diagnosis and the ensuing meds! I don't have a good immunity at the best of times due to another condition. I also have epilepsy and two of the seizure triggers are a high temp and infection / virus.
Will stock up on wipes and hand gel
Pity you can't spray visitors with Dettol!

Hobble

stickywicket

Oh Hobble, I have this wonderful vision of a sort of disinfectant shower which comes on automatically as someone walks through the door

Seriously, I have no problems with telling friends and family that I don't want to see them when they're infectious. And there's no reason why you can't, at least, keep some antibac gel to hand and ask visitors to use it.

I am, currently the not-so-delighted recipient of Mr SW's chest infection so these things loom large with me right now as I've already cancelled two flu jab appointments and not methed for 3 weeks.

dreamdaisy

Yes you can, Hobble. When I was working as a tutor both pupil and parents were given anti-bac hand gel to use before they came in and, if a child sneezed, the table and any equipment they were using were anti-bac wiped for their sakes as well as mine! My sniffly friends know to check with me before they visit so I can tell them to stay away. The Spouse is an assiduous hand-washer (as am I) and my handbag contains spray, gel and wipes for when I am out and about. When people understand the reason why we have to be careful they happily do their bit.

When my husband was very ill earlier this year with a severe chest infection, bedding and anything material he wore / touched was laundered with an anti-bac addition to the machine. I launder all towels at 60 to keep them as germ-free as possible. DD

Rog

dreamdaisy wrote:

Yes you can, Hobble. When I was working as a tutor both pupil and parents were given anti-bac hand gel to use before they came in and, if a child sneezed, the table and any equipment they were using were anti-bac wiped for their sakes as well as mine! My sniffly friends know to check with me before they visit so I can tell them to stay away. The Spouse is an assiduous hand-washer (as am I) and my handbag contains spray, gel and wipes for when I am out and about. When people understand the reason why we have to be careful they happily do their bit.

When my husband was very ill earlier this year with a severe chest infection, bedding and anything material he wore / touched was laundered with an anti-bac addition to the machine. I launder all towels at 60 to keep them as germ-free as possible. DD

I kind of feel i dont be listened to when i mention my immune suppressed body to people, particularly in work where a window is opened occassionaly and the wind tears in and we have no suitable jackets to wear, i ask for one and theres none to be found, if i get sick ill be sick for onger they dont realise this fact. Can i sue work if they dont provide what i need if i get really sick i wonder lol

stickywicket

It's true that most people are not at all clued up about autoimmune diseases and the immune system.

I doubt a cold wind could cause anything much - in fact it might blow germy air away - but it can make us a bit more susceptible to bugs. Can you take your own jacket in to work? Your workplace must, I believe, make 'reasonable adjustments' for any medical problems you have.

Hobble

Stickywicket and Dreamdaisy, I'll be stocking up on the gel and wipes! Still might spray the one or two visitors


Rog, have a look at disability discrimination act of 2010. It will tell you about reasonable adjustments which stickywicket mentioned. Take a coat and see what they say

Hobble

Slosh

There was an item of BBC Breakfast the other day demonstrating the correct way to wash your hands and how long it should take-2 minutes.

Slosh

There was an item of BBC Breakfast the other day demonstrating the correct way to wash your hands and how long it should take-2 minutes.

dreamdaisy

Apparently singing Happy Birthday twice covers roughly two minutes (probably best done internally to avoid strange looks). When I remember to take them in with me I use anti-bac wipes on the exit door of the ladies' as I leave unless there is a door-plate: no-one ever uses the door plate to push open a door, everyone aims for the middle!

I am sure we are all aware never to eat complementary bar snacks. I don 't think there's any need to say more. :shock:

It is worth explaining to people about the role of the immune system and how theirs works because they genuinely don't know: if you're used to good health why on earth would you? People only begin to worry and seek out information about something once they have an on-going problem (as is proved daily on here) which is completely understandable. Once people begin to comprehend what the impact could be of having a suppressed immune system they are generally very good at responding to our needs. One of the more interesting things about us is we don't know we're ill until we produce symptoms but that is very delayed due to the suppression, allowing whatever is causing the trouble to get a real hold on us. DD