oa caused by lazyness says physio!

penfactor

Oh, Sue I'm so angry about this the text has gone all blurry! Definitely complain - I totally agree with the others here & your lovely OH.
One thing I would add is sounds as if he's the one slouched on the couch watching revolting quacks spouting rubbish on daytime TV!
I could name names but don't worry mods, I won't.
These people & this useless worm are just ignorant & have not even passed through specialist training so don't give his bilge a second thought!
Please do complain, hon though?
love Pennie XX

woodbon

Hi Thank you all for the messages. I have had to stop the exercises as the pain in my upper chest and shoulders was too severe and I'm sure either I need more assistance to get it right or its torn a muscle. By the way, his name is Damion and I'd been joking about his name and the horror film! That'll teach me.

The more I think, the more it can't be anything to do with stopping exercise because I only stopped because of the pain and lack of strenghth. I also NEVER, well hardly ever, watch TV in the day, I'm too busy or too tired! Thank you all again, at first I just felt a fraud, now I'm beginning to want to fight. I even found it hard to tell my husband about it! :oops: Love Sue

salamander

hi Sue,

I feel furious on your behalf. How demeaning, insulting and upsetting.

Complain. I had to about a physio who left me sitting for 4 hours waiting for her to bring a list of exercises when I was discharged from hospital :shock: She didn't do any of the referrals and I complained to the manager who rang me up and admitted that I was right on every count. It's worth doing even if it only stops him doing it to other people

xx

kathbee

woodbon wrote:

The more I think, the more it can't be anything to do with stopping exercise because I only stopped because of the pain and lack of strenghth. I also NEVER, well hardly ever, watch TV in the day, I'm too busy or too tired! Thank you all again, at first I just felt a fraud, now I'm beginning to want to fight. I even found it hard to tell my husband about it! :oops: Love Sue

You certainly are not a fraud Sue

You have been thru loads these last months.

Glad you have got some 'fight' in you.

take care
Kath

marion1952

Sue

I'm shocked and appalled at his behaviour. It is completely unacceptable.. if he was like this with you he will be like this with other patients too - don't let it get to you..

He doesn't seem competent either, so, as DD says, god knows what damage his exercises could do..

You've had some good advice from other peeps .. definitely write it down, try to put it out of your mind until Monday and then talk to you GP about making a complaint..

oooh - I'm absolutely fuming about it!

Marion xx

tkachev

I would definately complain as I am sure he had no authority to suggest such things which are clearly not fact. I am really angry for you.

Elizabeth :x

woodbon

Hello, Thank you all so much for being so sympathetic and concerned. I felt so upset and unsure myself and what I was really feeling, whether it was all making a mountain out of a molehill that I didn't really know who to believe and felt I wanted to just hide away. Now, I feel a heck of a lot better and confident. So thank you all very much!
Love Sue

chris7

Hi Sue

I have only just seen this and do hope the thoughts here have reassured you that HE was most definately in the WRONG on so many counts. :x I do hope you do feel able to complain at his unprofessional and humiliating attitude. I also had a similar experience on my first visit to a physio who was clearly only interested in sports injuries and said I was beyond help. When I complained my GP referred me to a second physio who listened, understood OA and gave me appropriate exercises which did help. Don't let this knock you down for too long Sue, and do put it in writing if you can face it. I'm sorry this horrible experience has left you reeling.
take care
love
Chris

tjt6768

Sue, my wrists hurt anyway with RA so smacking this little git in the mouth wouldn't make much difference to them... Just give me his name and where I can find him... :x

Please don't let him get the better of you, people like him NEED reporting, if you do go back there just make sure you see someone else, you have the right to ask not to be seen by him.. And if you are asked why tell them the truth.. That is if you do decide not to complain, which I would suggest you do and to the highest authority possible...

Tony

cebeem

Sue how awful for you to be subjected to such an uneducated person(I will be polite unlike him).

The majority of my working life has been working with physios and please don't judge them on this ignorant person.
They are highly trained professionals in the main.

However during my time working with stroke patients I recall 1 newly qualified girl telling a recent stroke victim that she would never walk again (this was on first examination and completely not the case) and this would have been unpredictable for a physio with many years experience to determine.

The lady was extremely upset and vowed to walk and prove her wrong.... she did this with much grace and dignity within 2 months.!

It seems some people learn from text books only thus cannot look at the whys, wherefores and possibilities of a given situation and have no bedside manner nor people skills...all which come with experience ( there is NO short cut to experience).
Also he may want sports therapy (big earner) and this position is his only route (no excuse).
How dare he speak to you like that....besides complaining to PALS which may be a slowish process, I would ask to speak to his immediate manager as this may result in a more immediate appropriate reprimand.
I could go on all night......this is outrageous...hope I never meet him! Good luck Sue...please act on this!

dolittle

Hello Sue,
Hopefully you won't see this for hours yet, because you'll have had a decent sleep.

I've been treated like this on numerous occasions, but have been too polite with them. I really do know how you feel. Now I fiight back .. quietly, with dignity but firmly and eyeball to eyeball. The worst one was a young bloke who worked in appliances - he was objectionable ... I walked out and didn't go back; I should have done. Found out he'd left and been replaced by a guy who has helped me tremendously. I found out these people are not employed by the NHS but contracted from an outside company. I complained bitterly when I saw the 2nd guy and by the sound of it, he's been reprimanded. The support I got from PALS when a consultant was extremely rude to me was very minimal and, I felt, lacked any real 'clout' and there was no 'follow up'.

I think I'm beginning to realise that a lot of these clinics are staffed by 'contracted' freelancers/private clinics, who then have no 'pride' in the hospital or patient care, as used to be the case. Podiatry is a classic example and our clinic staff are so rude I would rather pay to have my feet done - £18 to cut my toenails!

I've digressed, but thought the knowledge that others are getting treated badly may help. Seek out his superiors and quietly 'pull the rug from underneath him', by pointing out that he must have upset the entire clinic's population, not only you, and is that the way the bossman wants his clinic to be appraised.

I really do hope you feel a lot better this morning and hope your OH's problems are not too long in the resolving. Remember one thing ... you have each other!

((( )))s Dolittle

frogmorton

Hi Sue

Just popping in to see how you are doing today?

Hoping you are feeling way better - how could you fail to be? With all this wonderful support and advice.

Enjoy your weekend and deal with this on Monday

Love

Toni xx

dreamdaisy

Thinking of you. You are not a fraud, you are not shamming, he is the fraud and the sham. Take care. DD

woodbon

Hello, I'm feeling a lot better today, both mentally and physically (I think one follows the other for me). I will go back as I need to make sure I don't see him again and he's made an appointment for 4 weeks time. I've stopped the exercises he gave me as I remember a previous girl, one of the senior staff, who's moved on now saying I must be very careful not to damage my neck and gave me some gentle streches for hips and spine. I think doing it 100 times a day, even though it was just a simple positional exercise was exessive!!!

I'll go and ask to see the centre manager and calmly tell her I why I want to change therapists. I know it could happen to someone else who dosn't have the support I have and who are physically weaker and could be hurt much more. So its a duty. I have an appointment with my GP on 8th Nov the first I can get, but if I look in each day on the web, they release a few, and then, hopefully, I'll get in earlier. Its a strange system, but it seems to work. Loads of love and thatnks Sue xxxxx

salamander

Hi Sue, you have every right to change your physio. They do make mistakes. After my mother had her shoulder replacement she was sent for physio at the local hospital and was given the wrong exercises. They were too vigorous and caused her shoulder to dislocate and she had to have the op again. She realised when she got the exercises after 2nd op what had happened and spoke to the consultant. He agreed she was given wrong ones. Sadly, the second op went wrong so she never really had use of that arm again. No-one ever apologised.

My long winded point is trust your judgement. If you think what he said is excessive it prob is. I think 100 of anything sounds a lot. In any case I've always been told to start with small numbers and build up.

daylily

So glad you're feeling better and have decided to sort that horrible man out.
Life is too short to take that sort of abuse from people.
Take care and good luck
anne x

dorcas

Hi Sue

I've not been around much... so I'm sorry this is the first I've read and responded to your post!

I agree with everything that's been said... this guy is an absolute moron... worse... he's a danger. :? and you have to question what he knows professionally about OA and it's causes :shock:

It's been an awful experience for you and his words have been so destructive in making you question your own motivation and understanding of what is after all a condition that's completely out with your control. :!:

I'm glad that you have taken the decision to speak to the centre manager about this guy's attitude and un-professionalism. Good for you Sue and we're 100% behind you.

hope you manage to do something nice over the weekend and can put this on a back burner until next week.

iris xxx

sharmaine

Hi

This is no way for a physio to behave. Please complain. He obviously has not idea that OA attacks the joints and causes muscles to waste away. He doesn't understand either how painful it is.

You certainly don't deserve his rudeness.

Regards
Sharmaine

woodbon wrote:

Hello, I've not been on for a while as I've been recovering from a particularly unpleasant vist to the physio. A young lad, certainly no older than 30 was so rude and unsupporting that I am seriously considering making an offical complaint. He sat me down and in a voice loud enough for the other patients and therapists to hear, told me that I had nothing wrong with me, apart from oa brought on because I didn't do enough work and didn't have a job. This he told everyone was due to the fact that I sat and watched TV all day!!! :x He said he if this were not the case then the multipule xrays, mri's, blood tests and physio would work. He said that I was on the cusp of becomeing unable to do anything as my joints became set in a bad posture position, which was responsible for all the problems I have. OA is nothing more than getting lazy as we get older!!! :x I wasn't examined or looked at until I said i'd better just go, if he felt like that. Then all he did was look at me upper body standing, force it into the 'proper' position and tell me to do this 100 times a day for a month and come back . I insisted that I tell him my history of how I'd recovered using physio exerices and gym referral but on going back to work, became ill again and my gp signed me off and works doctor had given me a full pension but, refused to redeploy me as I was unsafe to work in any capacity. Today I am in pain from the position he forced my body into unsure if I'm doing the exoercises properly and feel, afte he read my consultants reports out loud to the owhold rom along with a list of my medication I feel like either I'm mentally ill and an attenion seeker or just a waste of space lazy and work shy. Sorry to rant, just feel so awful husband wants me to comeplain but I'm going to see my GP. Love Sue

tmcclymont

woodbon wrote:

Hello, I've not been on for a while as I've been recovering from a particularly unpleasant vist to the physio. A young lad, certainly no older than 30 was so rude and unsupporting that I am seriously considering making an offical complaint. He sat me down and in a voice loud enough for the other patients and therapists to hear, told me that I had nothing wrong with me, apart from oa brought on because I didn't do enough work and didn't have a job. This he told everyone was due to the fact that I sat and watched TV all day!!! :x He said he if this were not the case then the multipule xrays, mri's, blood tests and physio would work. He said that I was on the cusp of becomeing unable to do anything as my joints became set in a bad posture position, which was responsible for all the problems I have. OA is nothing more than getting lazy as we get older!!! :x I wasn't examined or looked at until I said i'd better just go, if he felt like that. Then all he did was look at me upper body standing, force it into the 'proper' position and tell me to do this 100 times a day for a month and come back . I insisted that I tell him my history of how I'd recovered using physio exerices and gym referral but on going back to work, became ill again and my gp signed me off and works doctor had given me a full pension but, refused to redeploy me as I was unsafe to work in any capacity. Today I am in pain from the position he forced my body into unsure if I'm doing the exoercises properly and feel, afte he read my consultants reports out loud to the owhold rom along with a list of my medication I feel like either I'm mentally ill and an attenion seeker or just a waste of space lazy and work shy. Sorry to rant, just feel so awful husband wants me to comeplain but I'm going to see my GP. Love Sue

ok so im new to the site , but if he told me that ,i think he will be having falce teeth fitted , i have oa in hands and wrists but would fogo the pain...
keep your fathe

all the best
tom

suncatcher

I think this lad must have been in the same class as my physio. They must be the dunces. Im sorry you have been upset by this idiot. consentrate on the kind people around you not the prats we have to encounter. x joanne

magenta

Hi Sue,
I'm always late! I agree with everything that has been said. I can't believe he's been allowed to work in the NHS with an attitude like that. I'm hoping that one of the other therapists that would have heard him speaking to you will have done the decent thing and told him how stupid and rude he was. You never know, he might already have had a good kick up the 'you know what'!
Take care,
Eileen x

Starburst

Sue, I was really rather disgusted when I read your post. I'm so sorry you were subjected to such a nasty person. I can't believe they let people like this practice. A complaint, in writing, is definitley in order and don't let it drop until you've had a response.

**Gentle hugs**

woodbon

Thank you all so much, feeling a bit better today although still very stiff in places I've never hurt before! I'm GOING to at least report this to the senior manager, especally as all this took the best part of an hour, with no examination. My shoulders were red and bruised yesterday where his fingers had been. My husband was, well furious is a mild word! Lots of love Sue xxx

daylily

Hi , You should take a picture of bruises if possible.
He cannot argue with a photo if he tries to wriggle out if it.

Good luck with the complaint
anne x

denpen

Hi Sue
Get onto the hospital website and look for how to make a complaint and send in your complaint you should be able to do it online. That is absolutely disgusting to be treated that way by a physio also request a different physio stating that you dont want to be treated by him again, if he thinks having OA is caused by laziness then he cant be doing you any good with the excercises he has given you.
Dont be afraid of complaining I complained about the consultant that I had and the things that he said to me, you dont deserve to be spoken to that way you are going through enough with this horrible disease, dont take any rubbish from them.
Denise