esa refusal

coco67
coco67 Member Posts: 2,374
edited 30. Mar 2011, 15:22 in Living with Arthritis archive
:sad: just got home to a letter from esa saying my esa has been refused, i got 6 points, oh and by the way the £130 you were due today you aint getting it and wont get a penny till you sign on job seekers or we recieve your appeal in writting.

what the hell am i ment to feed my kids with untill they deside they have recieved my appeal and what am i ment to put down on paper for my appeal,, the dr needs to learn to understand english, and needs to have not lied.

help, where do i start please :sad: :sad: :sad: been feeling so low and now this.
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  • traluvie
    traluvie Member Posts: 2,579
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Cocoa..

    So sorry to hear that..
    Does it state on your letter why you were refused??
    Do you have a health professional who can help you with a supporting letter maybe.. I think you need to put together your appeal based on the reason why you think you can't work and the problems you face on a daily basis..Maybe CAB may be able to help and advise..
    Regarding money you can ring and claim for a crisis loan if you have no money coming in, i had to last week as i have put in new claims for everything so have not recieved any payments myself..
    It's not a nice situation to be in.. If i can help in anyway just pm me..
    Thinking of you..
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  • tjt6768
    tjt6768 Member Posts: 12,170
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Sorry to hear this Coco.. This is about the fourth time I've heard that they've lied over what people have said they are able to do.. It's disgraceful..
    I really hope that you're gonna be ok...
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  • lorica
    lorica Member Posts: 187
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Coco what you need to do is appeal, if you appeal they will continue to pay you your £130 a fortnight.

    The same thing happened to me, I went for the assessment I was crippled up with pain... and they only gave me 6 points, I have started the appeal prosess, and I requested a copy of the report, which is what you need to do, get the report.

    I went through my report with a fine tooth comb, and what was in the report was a pack of lies, and alot of missing evidence that if it had been in the report I would have got the required 15 points.!

    You must fight it dont let them do it to you, I have now got my rheummy, GP, local MP and Local MSP (I live in Scotland) involved so you do the same.

    Dont let them win.

    If you want to talk you can send me a PM. I know what its like i was really depressed after I got the same news but im now trying to fight

    You can do it

    Mark
  • coco67
    coco67 Member Posts: 2,374
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    thankyou so much for your messages. i will appeal. and i will ring up for a crisis loan, how long does it take once you call them and do they take it back off you in one go?

    they made there desision using my form and the medical, nothing from my gp or the evidence i enclosed. i got 6 points. they dont take into account that your days varry and this medical muppet has totally ignored the fact i have a gp never mind the treatment ive had over the past 18 plus months/

    oh well here starts the battle, i shall file my teath and tallons and do battle
  • barbara12
    barbara12 Member Posts: 21,281
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Coco I am so glad that Mark has given all that advice, these people that sit back in the little offices and cut money to people like you that are trying to do the best for there family well sorry but if I say it I will get thrown off the forum.
    I am so sorry my love, but try to come back fighting, I know its not easy when you are struggling with pain, but we are all behind you.
    Good luck with everything and please keep us updated.
    Love and lots of hugs ((((())))
    Barbara xx
    Love
    Barbara
  • coco67
    coco67 Member Posts: 2,374
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Thank you Barbara.

    i will fight and fight hard, they can pull the rug from under my feet but what they have to remember is the concreate i land on is broken and i can throw the chucks hard, so to speak
  • traluvie
    traluvie Member Posts: 2,579
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Hi Coco,

    If you ring up the crisis loan first thing in the morning you can collect giro from your local job centre on the same day.. You fill out the application over the phone, takes about half hour, they put you on hold for about 5 mins then give you the decision, they take it back from you in instalments without leaving you short..
    You def need to appeal, there is someone who has posted a thread on here who appealed, maybe they can help you.. some one posted on it earlier so is showing up in new posts..
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  • traluvie
    traluvie Member Posts: 2,579
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    ATOS/ESA MEDICAL APPEAL
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  • coco67
    coco67 Member Posts: 2,374
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Thankyou i will ring them first thing in the morning and see what they say. i will let you know.

    once again thankyou.
  • woodbon
    woodbon Member Posts: 4,969
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    As soon as you can let them know that you are appealling. They will then continue to pay you until the appeal and even should you loose the appeal they can't claim the money back.

    I failed but, appealled and went from 6 points to over 15! Then contact CAB to get help with the appeal.

    I am sorry for you, I know the feeling of being refused and it is frightening and upsetting. ATOS seem to make a lot of 'Mistakes' in their work, so you are not alone. I hope that all goes well for you and the money is sorted out quickly. Take care, & good luck! Love Sue xxxx
  • chris7
    chris7 Bots Posts: 2,696
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Hi Coco

    Really sorry to see this and I can't add to the advise but do hope you do find some fight and appeal. Just wanted to leave some courage and determination for you and hope you do make that phone call tomorrow?
    take care and hang in there. We are on your side.
    Chris
  • skezier
    skezier Member Posts: 11,333
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Hi Coco,

    Oh flower I am sorry I am so late to see this... the eyes have all but given up cus the black well it doesn't get on with them at all....

    I am so glad Mark has come in there and like Sue says you need help from the CAB or DIAL or someone who knows what and how to do.

    I don't have any experience of esa but know enough to know its a joke!

    hang in there and make that call... I wish i could help but leaving you a ((((( ))))) and a bucket of fight. Cris xx
  • frogmorton
    frogmorton Member Posts: 29,832
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Hi Coco

    I am fuming yet again ATOS almost automatically turning someone dpwn who is clrealy entitled!!! :x Makes me soooo cross.

    P)lease do let us know how you get on with all the agencies you need to contact - including CAB for help with that appeal.

    Cross Toni xxx
  • traluvie
    traluvie Member Posts: 2,579
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Hi Cocoa,

    Just wanted to pop in and say hi..
    Hope you get on ok today..
    Let me know how it went..
    Keep positive luvie..
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  • tillytop
    tillytop Member Posts: 3,460
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Hi Coco

    Just picked up on this and although I can't advise, just wanted to wish you luck with the loan and the appeal and to say I am thinking of you.

    Love Tilly xxx
  • elainebadknee
    elainebadknee Bots Posts: 3,703
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Coco

    I cant say more than others have said apart from get on the phone right away, fill in the GL24 appeal form, get the ball rolling and that re-instates your money right away.....
    I will be in your shoes soon as im just waiting for blasted form to come in post, to call me for medical...

    Overall Coco - DONT LET THE ****ARDS GRIND YOU DOWN!!! PROVE THEM WRONG AND HOW INEFFICIENT THEY ARE!!!

    Love Elainexx
  • coco67
    coco67 Member Posts: 2,374
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Hi everyone

    well its been eventful, rang the crisis loan people who said i couldnt have a loan as it shows on screen they owe me £60 and it should have been paid on monday :eek: , was then told to go down to job centre and see some one there to get it sorted, spent a couple of hours in there trying to get it sorted, ended up with £60 and being told to ring the loan place when it runs out as i wont get anything more untill appeal is loged . so that money has to last me as long as possible, £20 of it will be bus fare for kids to get to school next week, and at least i can have some food if not pay me bills.

    what a c**k up, appareantly they had paid me a week short when they started my esa and its just been picked up now they stopped it. very professional.

    thankyou all for your help and support i really appreciate it ((((()))))
  • traluvie
    traluvie Member Posts: 2,579
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Hi Cocoa..

    What a balls up they made... shocking..
    I am going through the same thing so you not on your own.. i rang up everyone i owed money too and explained the situation so they knew i am not just avoiding them..They can put a note on the system.. at least you been courteous...
    When you run out of the 60(keep a log on what you have spent it on) then you can claim the crisis loan..
    It's a pain i know luvie.. but like i said i can sympathise with you and if i can help any way i will...
    Chin up... You will get there..xx
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  • barbara12
    barbara12 Member Posts: 21,281
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Hi Coco
    Just to let you know Im still thinking about you, so sorry about the money, hopefully you will get it sorted very soon.
    Love and hugs ((((())))
    Barbara xx
    Love
    Barbara
  • elainebadknee
    elainebadknee Bots Posts: 3,703
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Coco

    Thats total pants I mean youre not just a normal jobseeker (if you know what I mean) youre a person with a disability who is having a hard enough time without them treating you as if theyre doing you a favour by giving you a measly £60....You know what gets me about flipping jobcentres too?? they dont have public loos but if you have to sit around for an hour or so then miss your time its a royal pain in the posterior!!!
    Are you sure thats right that the money has to run out till you get more? That dont seem right, when you just get oin the blower to lodge appeal thats you on the esa again??

    Big hugs to you, what a day huh?

    Elainex
    coco67 wrote:
    Hi everyone

    well its been eventful, rang the crisis loan people who said i couldnt have a loan as it shows on screen they owe me £60 and it should have been paid on monday :eek: , was then told to go down to job centre and see some one there to get it sorted, spent a couple of hours in there trying to get it sorted, ended up with £60 and being told to ring the loan place when it runs out as i wont get anything more untill appeal is loged . so that money has to last me as long as possible, £20 of it will be bus fare for kids to get to school next week, and at least i can have some food if not pay me bills.

    what a c**k up, appareantly they had paid me a week short when they started my esa and its just been picked up now they stopped it. very professional.

    thankyou all for your help and support i really appreciate it ((((()))))
  • suncatcher
    suncatcher Member Posts: 2,174
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Keep fighting em get help from gp anyone get represented by cab or well fare rights. Im fuming for you. Keep strong get that appeal in quick wish you well from Joanne
    Joanne
  • coco67
    coco67 Member Posts: 2,374
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    i will fight, i didnt get the form in the post this morning so im praying it arrives tomorrow so i can get my appeal lodged and money re-instated.
  • elainebadknee
    elainebadknee Bots Posts: 3,703
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    Um Coco

    Any jobcentre can hand you a GL24 form to fill in to appeal, no need to wait for post...

    elainex
    coco67 wrote:
    i will fight, i didnt get the form in the post this morning so im praying it arrives tomorrow so i can get my appeal lodged and money re-instated.
  • tkachev
    tkachev Member Posts: 8,332
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    They can see you are unwell, they shouldn't be so cruel.But at least you have £60 which is better than nothing cocoa. Here,the children get free bus passes for school journeys which is a big help.
    All the best and get that appeal in.What a shame they didn't think to give you the required form.

    Elizabeth
    Never be bullied into silence.
    Never allow yourself to be made a victim.
    Accept no ones definition of your life

    Define yourself........

    Harvey Fierstein
  • coco67
    coco67 Member Posts: 2,374
    edited 30. Nov -1, 00:00
    going to dump my happyself in the jobcentre and ask for a GL24 form, thankyou for letting me know i can do this.

    i hope they have there body armer on as i will be sharp if they try messing me around today, (grumpy and sore so who better to go and see :wink: )

    hope everyone is ok today

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