Question On Blue Badge Form Re Length Of Steps

JuliaHod12

hmm, BB issue and autism

I am on the fence on this one.........my step grandson is 4yrs old, has autism and his parents have been granted all of the following;

a) Free Bus Pass (and companion pass)
b) Higher DLA
c) BB

I will appeal if i am not awarded a BB since i cannot walk as far as a 4yr old, dont get DLA and am not therefore eligible for a Free Bus Pass

I dont begrudge passes to those that actually have a need..........but i do question the need for a small child who would always be accompanied by an adult anyway being granted a BB..........and Bus Pass!

elainebadknee

Hi Julie

Yes I think they must think we stride along at a galloping pace and not limp along with a shuffle!! Im not optimistic with application neither is my dad but we can but try...

Elainex

julie47 wrote:

Hi Elaine

Just to wish you luck with your blue badge application.

I think they must think we march asking such a question regarding the length of a step

Love juliepf x

elainebadknee

Hi

Well to me that isnt right, not honest cos the difference between half a metre and a metre could make a lot of difference in terms of how they judge how able I am.....It i tricky mind you...

Elainex

PollySid wrote:

I think they may be just generalising and don't want the actual amount of steps you can take, but how far you can walk assuming that one step=metre. In other words if you can walk 10 metres say 10 steps.
That is how I would do it if I was trying for a BB.

elainebadknee

Hi Julia

Yes I know exactly where youre coming from on this issue as you say a child is hardly likely to be left alone.....My own nephew is 15 now but still very naive in some ways...But does that qualify him for DLA and BB, I dont know as he is able to walk, very strong just not very streetwise....The autism spectrum is such a vast one mind you its hard to govern.....

Hope you get your BB

Elainex

JuliaHod12 wrote:

hmm, BB issue and autism

I am on the fence on this one.........my step grandson is 4yrs old, has autism and his parents have been granted all of the following;

a) Free Bus Pass (and companion pass)
b) Higher DLA
c) BB

I will appeal if i am not awarded a BB since i cannot walk as far as a 4yr old, dont get DLA and am not therefore eligible for a Free Bus Pass

I dont begrudge passes to those that actually have a need..........but i do question the need for a small child who would always be accompanied by an adult anyway being granted a BB..........and Bus Pass!

tkachev

elainebadknee wrote:

Hi Elizabeth

Well the DLA route is obviously different. Ive been told also that they are clamping down on a group of people who in my opinion shouldnt be questioned - autism....It states now that this and other conditions are not enough to qualify, must have another impariment to count too...I have nephew who is autistic and he has no sense of direction nor danger but all they see is he is a big strapping lad!!
The new form asks you to state landmarks in your town where you can walk with postcodes...Its all trickery....

Elainex

tkachev wrote:

Hi Elaine

Hi Elaine,



I also got mine through the DLA route. I don't know how to answer your question only to say that they must allow for some walking ability, from the car park to the shop entrance for example, and if you can say you can only walk a short distances in pain and slowly that might satisfy them. I agree The questions are very difficult to answer.

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Hi again,

As you know I have 2 boys on the autistic spectrum but I've never claimed for a blue badge for them as they are in good health and can walk far- but only with supervision. However I have friends whose childen are ultra sensory and would never cope with public transport or walking about. I am happy for some autisitic children to qualify for the blue badge as some really do need it.

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elainebadknee

Hi Elizabeth

Yes I too have no problem with people like that having a blue badge as they really do need it..Cant imagine what it is like for either the child or the person caring for them, very upsetting....Autism is such a wide scale condition that lots of us know very little about...

Elainex




Hi again,

As you know I have 2 boys on the spectrum but I've never claimed for a blue badge for them as they are in good health and can walk far- but only with supervision. However I have friends whose childen are ultra sensory and would never cope with public transport or walking about. I am happy for some autisitic children to qualify for the blue badge as some really do need it.

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tkachev

having mobility problems myself I feel my 2 boys shouldn't get a blue badge. They need to keep fit and are very lucky they can walk pain free!

Do you walk to any landmarks in your local area? If not I would tell the you do not have that pleasure!

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elainebadknee

Hiya

Well yes if they are fit and able then no need for BB....
I walk to post office which is just 5 mins away but I have to stop both there and back, they will see that as too far mind you...I do recognise I am not bad physically, I can walk somewhat and not very gamely but kinda resigned to losing it Oct 2012...

Elainex

tkachev wrote:

having mobility problems myself I feel my 2 boys shouldn't get a blue badge. They need to keep fit and are very lucky they can walk pain free!

Do you walk to any landmarks in your local area? If not I would tell the you do not have that pleasure!

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thewifie

What are they playing at ! A metre for a step ! I would have to do the splits to do that. The standard military step is 30 inches and also I think the Police, how on earth do they come by the figure of 39 inches !

I am just in the process of asking for a Blue Badge for my husband but he gets higher rate DLA so have not had to go through this...yet !

kellerman

Well......I put a tape measure on the floor and good leg forward took a metre step......I nearly did the splits as my right bad leg just gave way.
I'd love to know who takes metre steps.
Does it actually say how many metre steps you can walk or how many metres in total.
I got my BB last October but if I had to answer this......well none at all.
May

elainebadknee

Hi Wifie

Its outraegous isnt it, I mean id love to find this protocol that they based this question on? Its really just another highlight of them as =king questions which are unreasonable and immeasureable...

Good job you dont have to fill this in!!

Elainex

thewifie wrote:

What are they playing at ! A metre for a step ! I would have to do the splits to do that. The standard military step is 30 inches and also I think the Police, how on earth do they come by the figure of 39 inches !

I am just in the process of asking for a Blue Badge for my husband but he gets higher rate DLA so have not had to go through this...yet !

elainebadknee

May

Dont go doing the splits for goodness sake! But seriously its just not doable is it? It just asks you to state how many steps you can walk and that they say the average step, size 9 is about a metrre...Im going to put in my foots measurement, point out to them I couldnt stride a metre ever in my lifetime and go down that route...

Elainex

kellerman wrote:

Well......I put a tape measure on the floor and good leg forward took a metre step......I nearly did the splits as my right bad leg just gave way.
I'd love to know who takes metre steps.
Does it actually say how many metre steps you can walk or how many metres in total.
I got my BB last October but if I had to answer this......well none at all.
May

tkachev

I think if I did a back flip that would reach a metre! My current steps are more like those little Chines ladies with the bandaged feet!


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elainebadknee

Lol...Yeah think mine get smaller as hips get sorer, shuffling along like a snail!!

Elainex

tkachev wrote:

I think if I did a back flip that would reach a metre! My current steps are more like those little Chines ladies with the bandaged feet!


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kellerman

Well hun if the average step is a metre I'm way way below average.
Its comforting to know I'm not the only one......even my able bodied though elderly OH doesn't walk in metre steps.
He did think I was going slightly mad trying this but I just wanted to know if it was remotely possible.
I'd love to know who thinks of these questions.
Good luck with your application. Love May

elainebadknee

Hi May

It makes you wonder how they set these questions and do they test them with anyone with walking problems or other problems....Thats what gets me, if youre going to ask me a question make it something simple I can answer not a thing that a double entendre that can be manipulated...
These forms should be governed by people who have problems themselves not jobsworths who have no idea...

Elainex

kellerman wrote:

Well hun if the average step is a metre I'm way way below average.
Its comforting to know I'm not the only one......even my able bodied though elderly OH doesn't walk in metre steps.
He did think I was going slightly mad trying this but I just wanted to know if it was remotely possible.
I'd love to know who thinks of these questions.
Good luck with your application. Love May

thewifie

Found this definition:

pace 1 (ps)
n.
1. A step made in walking; a stride.
2. A unit of length equal to 30 inches (0.76 meter).
3. The distance spanned by a step or stride, especially:
a. The modern version of the Roman pace, measuring five English feet. Also called geometric pace.
b. Thirty inches at quick marching time or 36 at double time.
c. Five Roman feet or 58.1 English inches, measured from the point at which the heel of one foot is raised to the point at which it is set down again after an intervening step by the other foot.
4.

Not sure about the last one though ! Won't be trying that one out !

Source:http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pace

elainebadknee

Hi

Thats rather interesting maybe should enclose this with mine and my dad's application??lol..Im sure they have plucked thier own measurements from space!!

Elainex

thewifie wrote:

Found this definition:

pace 1 (ps)
n.
1. A step made in walking; a stride.
2. A unit of length equal to 30 inches (0.76 meter).
3. The distance spanned by a step or stride, especially:
a. The modern version of the Roman pace, measuring five English feet. Also called geometric pace.
b. Thirty inches at quick marching time or 36 at double time.
c. Five Roman feet or 58.1 English inches, measured from the point at which the heel of one foot is raised to the point at which it is set down again after an intervening step by the other foot.
4.

Not sure about the last one though ! Won't be trying that one out !

Source:http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pace

PollySid

I've just read through this thread with interest.
Did the Romans have exceptionally long legs to march with steps 58" apart, or was the Roman inch smaller than our modern one?

Looks to me like they let a trainee (sorry I know all trainees are not this bad) set up the form.
We used to get a similar thing at the Convenience store with the plannograms. On paper the chocolate bars fitted perfectly to their plan, but not when we actually tried it.

They need someone with practical knowledge of disability, which they obviously haven't got.

elainebadknee

Hi PollySid

Yeah youre spot on there with the trainee thing, can imagine some superfit nymph doing a gigantic stride and proclaiming that to be declared the normal footstep of an average human???
Yet again common sense has gone out of the window on this one!!

Elainex

PollySid wrote:

I've just read through this thread with interest.
Did the Romans have exceptionally long legs to march with steps 58" apart, or was the Roman inch smaller than our modern one?

Looks to me like they let a trainee (sorry I know all trainees are not this bad) set up the form.
We used to get a similar thing at the Convenience store with the plannograms. On paper the chocolate bars fitted perfectly to their plan, but not when we actually tried it.

They need someone with practical knowledge of disability, which they obviously haven't got.

tkachev

I'm having visions of the ministry of silly walks now.

MY 6.2 OH has a very fast step, he's fit and healthy, marches up the road, and we measured his step and it reached 7o cms.


Elizabeth

elainebadknee

Elizabeth

I will be honest and say I dont know how that converts to a metre but im guessing iits still short....Daft!

Elainex

tkachev wrote:

I'm having visions of the ministry of silly walks now.

MY 6.2 OH has a very fast step, he's fit and healthy, marches up the road, and we measured his step and it reached 7o cms.


Elizabeth

thewifie

Five Roman feet or 58.1 English inches, measured from the point at which the heel of one foot is raised to the point at which it is set down again after an intervening step by the other foot.

I think this works out at three steps by the look of it, heel raised then one step, then step with other leg then step with first leg then measure....sounds like the hokey kokey !! Probably used as a measure for something.

elainebadknee

Or as Elizabeth puts it the ministry of stupid walks!!

Elainex

thewifie wrote:

Five Roman feet or 58.1 English inches, measured from the point at which the heel of one foot is raised to the point at which it is set down again after an intervening step by the other foot.

I think this works out at three steps by the look of it, heel raised then one step, then step with other leg then step with first leg then measure....sounds like the hokey kokey !! Probably used as a measure for something.

tkachev

Hi Elaine,

100 cm's to a metre so it is less than a metre but he is tall and has no mobility issues.

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