ESA Tribunal Friday 11th October 2013

elainebadknee

Hi

I have my tribunal date on friday...I am in no doubt I will fail as they thought I was fit for work before during and after my knee replacement in October 2012.....I will however go with all my paperwork, point out their faults, the way they interpret things (when I say I cannot do something its not a refusal it means I cannot) and how the first healthcare professional? thought angioedema was to do with cardio problems! Im going buy myself cos I don't want my dad to have the stress of attending with me...Its at 3.30 in the afternoon on a friday so they will stop my money before the end of the day...It does puzzle me all these new things government propose for jobseekers which I will be on soon....Where do they think all these jobs we can take up are or apprenticeships, supposedly manufacturing is up - where? Also people are made to work longer so jobs younger people could take are not available because of the person working till nearly age 70? David Cameron has no idea of everyday life as so demonstrated with his bread answer last week...

Elainexx

barbara12

Hello Elaine
Its good to have you back...
But sorry you have to go through all this..cr**good luck with it all and I will be thinking about you..xx

elainebadknee

Barbara

To be honest don't come on here as much, it simply doesn't have the same feel as it used to have, hardly know anyone (text deleted by Moderator YEH, house rule 1)
I don't stand a cat in hell's chance but I will not be treated like a timewaster, or anything similar...

Elainexx

snowdrop123

Hi Elaine,

I just wanted to say good luck with the tribunal. It's soul destroying being told that you are fit for work when you are not. I'm appealing against the decision to stop my ESA and waiting for a date for a tribunal so I can empathise with your situation. I'm with you about Cameron. Where does he think all these jobs we're supposed to be able to do are????
Best wishes
Kate

elainebadknee

Kate

The government should have tackled the benefits culture decades ago but the fact of the matter is that the blokes I see living in Ladbrokes all day all week, never having worked a day in their life will never ever change, that's who should be targeted. ATOS are just awful the healthcare so called professionals are often not experts in anything, besides even if you look up my TKR last year...Well I was 44, fit and healthy, supposed to come out after 3-4 days, well I was in 8 days, had blood transfusion, deformity corrected, bad reaction to blood transfusion and a bend upon discharge of less than 70%....The whole point being not everyone matches the ideal...

Good luck to you also..

Elainexx

nearlybionic

Hi Elaine
Good luck on Friday, and good for you not giving in to them! I hope you get the opportunity to put your case across and inform them of their mistakes.
I will be thinking of you on Friday afternoon
NB

maria09

Hi Elaine
Good luck for Friday I hope it goes in your favour but from passed experience I have a funny feeling it won't
Just go in there do you best that's all you can do
I do feel they make their mind up before you go in!
I was still using my crutch when I went in and still failed
Keep strong and sock it to em!
Maria

bubbadog

Hi Elaine, good luck for Friday, it is soul destroying when you obviously are in no state to work but some jobs worth refuses to listen to you or look at your forms properly, it's like they have already made there decision before they have even seen you. I also agree with you and others where does posh boy Cameron think all these jobs are? There are thousands of people still unemployed and can't find jobs so what chance does a sick disabled person have trying to find work? Why take real disabled people off their benefits who have loads of prove that they have a real illness and are unfit to work and let half of these dole dossers who's only disability is laziness to find work let them keep their benefit! Sorry got on my soap box again!! Hope you get a break on Friday and change their minds. Will have my bent fingers crossed for you.

DebbieT

Hello,

I want to wish you the very best of luck for Friday!!

My hubby had his 1st medical this year, his was a home one tho. It's so degrading. I couldn't believe how they tried to lie about his medical problems, I'd heard it happened & believed it but to see & hear it in person was astonishing!!!

I hope you get a positive outcome.

I think the benefits should be linked somehow. If you get DLA/PIP & it's a 3yr award, for instance, then it should be the same for ESA etc It would save on so much paperwork & double medicals but mostly it would cut down our stress massively!! If people aren't on DLA/PIP for instance then, and only then, should they be assessed annually!! Well that's how I'd do it.

(((( )))) Good luck.xxx

elainebadknee

NB

Hi I will try my best to get my side of te story across, I refuse to be brow beaten by people who think they know my body/condition better than I do..

Elainexx

elainebadknee

Maria

I know it wont and that they do indeed make up their mind as soon as you walk into the examining room and the magistrates court? I e.mean I have never in my life been in a magistrates court, what a waste of time...

Elainexx

elainebadknee

Bubba

Cameron has no idea, neither has IDS, Clegg, Vince Cable and numerous members of our governmet who are all public schoolboys who have no idea what its like to struggle on a day to day basis....I won't get a break on friday but if I get my say I won't let myself down.

Elainexx

elainebadknee

Debbie

Well Im quite sure they will have a few rabbits to pull out of the hat on friday but if that's all they can resolve to it shows how manipulative they are...Im sorry to hera about your husband too..I agree with yur proposal for award of benefits, why can't someone normal stand up for us and all the poor remploy people who are reduced to voluntary work, no good for the soul...

Elainexx

villier

Hi Elaine

Just want to wish you luck on Friday, remember the people that are on the panel have nothing to gain/lose not like ATOS they have everything to gain, you can only do what you can and at least you can get things off your chest..............Marie x

elainebadknee

Marie

No doubt I will get the grumpy ones who just want to clock off on a friday afternoon and will sweep me aside as quick as they can....I have nothing to lose financially or otherwise so may as well have my say too..

Elainexx

maria09

Hi
Mine was on a Saturday
The judge wanted to get home so I had to wait till the Tuesday to find out I'd failed
I should have said no I want to know now she said they were busy if busy meant an empty room and only 3 people that day I was the last! Then she was busy! Grrr
I really hope it does go well for you
Maria

elainebadknee

Hi

Well mine will go much the same then....Im looking forward to but of arguing actually!

Elainexx

kathbee

elainebadknee wrote:

Hi

Well mine will go much the same then....Im looking forward to but of arguing actually!

Elainexx

GO FOR IT Elaine.
Kath

elainebadknee

Kath

Well they're gonna fail me anyway so why the hell should I be treated like c***? (Text amended by Moderator YEH, swearing)

Elainexx

maria09

Hi Elaine
Hope all goes well tomorrow at your tribunal
Sock it to em!
Maria

elainebadknee

Maria

I will try me best but who knows what's in store..Seems I'm keeping magistrates in a job plus others....???

Elainexx

Toots

Very best of luck Elaine! x

maria09

Good luck for today
Let us know how it goes
Maria

elainebadknee

Toots

Thanks I will do my best all I can!

Elainexx

Toots wrote:

Very best of luck Elaine! x

elainebadknee

Maria

It wont be today as I won't get home till well after 5.30pm as it's half an hour away from where I live...Plus we all know the outcome but it will be an education to say the least....Arguing is something I am looking forward to!

Elainexx

oldies

Hope all went well Elaine.Keep us updated and hope you socked it to them