Morphine withdrawal - can anyone help please?

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  • dachshund
    dachshund Member Posts: 9,391
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Hello Tilly
    how are you getting on you are doing so well.
    ((((((((Tillytop))))))))
    thinking of you
    joan xx
    take care
    joan xx
  • villier
    villier NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 4,426
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Sorry to hear things have been bad again, hope you geet this sorted out soon ((((()))))..............Marie xx
    Smile a while and while you smile
    smile another smile and soon there
    will be miles and miles of smiles
    just because you smiled I wish your
    day is full of Smiles
  • tillytop
    tillytop NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 3,460
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Thank you so much for your continued support - I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.

    I'm not managing to reduce the morphine further at the moment but am fighting hard and, mostly, winning against the impulse to increase it again.

    As for the other meds, I have reached the limit of what's possible in terms of reducing/stopping and am finding it hard to cope with the fact that things are not better and that I seem to have exhausted the available options.

    Thanks again.

    Tilly
  • Numptydumpty
    Numptydumpty Member Posts: 6,417
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Could it be that things are not better yet because it takes time for the meds to leave your system/reduced meds to make a difference?
    I really hope things do improve because I know you've worked really hard at this.
    ((((()))))
    Numpty
  • tillytop
    tillytop NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 3,460
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Thanks Numpty. You have made a really good point there. Thinking about it, it took nearly a month to feel any benefit from stopping the Lanzoprazole and, I think I was just assuming that the other meds would be quicker to "get rid of" for some reason - I think because they work quickly and wear off quickly. But maybe that isn't the case and that gives me some hope.

    Thanks so much.

    Tilly
  • mig
    mig Member Posts: 7,154
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Hi Tilly, Hope things are a little better for you,these things do take time ,I think about you every day,sending hugs (((()))) Mig
  • tillytop
    tillytop NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 3,460
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Thanks so much Mig for your encouragement. It means a lot and I so appreciate people continuing to take time to support me when I am not in a position to do any supporting myself in return.

    Tilly
  • LignumVitae
    LignumVitae NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 1,972
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Keep going TT, thinking of you xx
    Hey little fighter, things will get brighter
  • villier
    villier NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 4,426
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Me too, hope your getting there.................tc..........Marie xx
    Smile a while and while you smile
    smile another smile and soon there
    will be miles and miles of smiles
    just because you smiled I wish your
    day is full of Smiles
  • tillytop
    tillytop NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 3,460
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Thanks LV and Marie, so much.

    Tilly
  • mig
    mig Member Posts: 7,154
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Hi Tilly ,Hope you're doing ok. Mig
  • tillytop
    tillytop NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 3,460
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Thanks Mig. Things very up and down but today has been a better day, for which I am grateful.

    Tilly
  • tillytop
    tillytop NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 3,460
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Just a general "hello" and "thanks" for the continued support. I really do appreciate it.

    Although I'm not posting much at the moment I am looking in and still thinking of you all.

    Thanks again.

    Tilly
  • frogmorton
    frogmorton Member Posts: 30,484
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Hi there Tilly

    Sorry haven't posted for a day or three :oops: Life has been very exhausting lately. I had cause to 'bump up' te gardening thread on chit chat last week.....I think the snow has sent it back down though :roll:

    Take care I still think about you

    love and ((()))

    Toni xxx
  • tillytop
    tillytop NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 3,460
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Thanks so much Toni.

    Tilly
  • LignumVitae
    LignumVitae NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 1,972
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Keep looking in, we're still thinking of you and offering support. Love LV xx
    Hey little fighter, things will get brighter
  • tillytop
    tillytop NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 3,460
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Thanks so much LV.

    Tilly
  • frogmorton
    frogmorton Member Posts: 30,484
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    tillytop wrote:
    Thanks so much Toni.

    Tilly

    and Cris' deer send a nudge :)

    ((()))

    Toni xxx
  • clio133
    clio133 NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 12
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Tilly,
    I don't know if this will help. i guess it might for someone people but not for others. I hope it does for you.
    I agree with the people who suggest that you might be trying to get off the morphine too quickly and that it'd be best to get expert advice.
    I'm no expert and I'm new to this painful joints thing so there's probably people with more experience than me. But I do have some training in how drugs affect the nervous system (albeit in a very different field) and this is how I see things...
    When you take a drug long term your body tends to adapt. when you stop taking that drug its not only the time for the drug to leave your system but also the time for your body to un-adapt. (no idea if that is a real word but it'll do.)
    Think of the body builder who takes steroids for big muscles. They may decide to stop taking the steroids. Within days there will be no steroids in their system. But it will be months before their muscles go back to normal.
    Adaption is particularly true in the nervous system which is very good at it. It is after all what learning is all about - the brain adapting to its environment. When you take a drug that acts on your nervous system (there are lots, including pain meds and antidepressants) your nervous system adapts to it, gradually, over time. When you stop or reduce the drug, your nervous system has to re-adapt and this would presumably take as long to occur as the original adaption.
    so my advice is to be patient. Which is easier said than done, I'm sure. You may just have to give your body time to keep up.
    And don't go back to that idiot doctor. There's much better ones out there.
    Best wishes. I'm thinking of you.
    C
  • mig
    mig Member Posts: 7,154
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Hi Tilly,hope you are doing ok,any plans for Easter ,we are going to see "we will rock you" going to be loud.Mig
  • villier
    villier NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 4,426
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Hope you are hanging in there Tilly, thinking of you ..........tc...........Marie xx



    Hope you enjoy the show mig xx
    Smile a while and while you smile
    smile another smile and soon there
    will be miles and miles of smiles
    just because you smiled I wish your
    day is full of Smiles
  • tillytop
    tillytop NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 3,460
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Thanks all so much.

    Thanks Mig and Marie. Mig, hope you enjoy your concert. We have no plans as such - just making it up as we go along.

    Clio - thank you so much for your post and what you say makes perfect sense and has given me some more much needed encouragement.

    Toni, thanks for the ((()))s and for passing on the deer nudge from Cris.


    Thinking of you all and thanks again.

    Tilly
  • bubbadog
    bubbadog NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 5,544
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Hey Tilly, Just dropping in to see how the reducing morphine was going, the sickness is a hard part of the withdrawal as is the high temperature/ sweats. I take anti-sickness meds as some of the meds I'm on side effects are sickness so it helps. With the morphine withdrawal my anti-sickness meds do ease the sickness a little so it might help if you haven't already getting some anti-sickness meds. I'm pleased your still fighting it and reducing the morphine, I'm still reducing the M.S.T and have dropped 100mg over 12 months which I'm pleased with and fingers crossed if the new med I'm on helps I could reduce even more. So keep fighting Tilly you will get there. :)
  • villier
    villier NonActiveMember5yrs Posts: 4,426
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Hi Tilly
    I know you have a lot going on, beteween morphine withdrawl and all the rest you have to contend with, have you considered Sjogrens as part of your problems, I am trying to control sickness and nausea at the moment, it is just a thought, thinking of you........Marie xx
    Smile a while and while you smile
    smile another smile and soon there
    will be miles and miles of smiles
    just because you smiled I wish your
    day is full of Smiles
  • mig
    mig Member Posts: 7,154
    edited 30. Nov -0001, 00:00
    Hi Tilly ,How are things with you now ? the weather in nottm has been nice and sunny today just a little chilly.Did you have a bet on the national ? I did but it lost.(((()))) Mig

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